FYI:

As Chris followed up on his suggestion to start working on a Wiki page describing Cayenne XML format, I added Chris to "cayenne-user" Wiki group and I made some permission changes in the CAY space, allowing "cayenne-user" to edit the space. Note that since we do not include the contents of this space in the release, this is the only space where users without a CLA on file may be allowed. But of course if we are to transfer the contents to CAYDOC, we'll need a CLA.

Andrus


Begin forwarded message:

From: "Chris Farnham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: September 26, 2007 4:42:22 PM GMT+03:00
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Raw XML vs. Cayenne GUI
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Such a thing would probably help other people and improve the
usability of Cayenne. Perhaps you'd like to start a page here:

http://cwiki.apache.org/CAY/

Eventually this could be merged into the main documentation.

In the next day or two I'll add a Wiki page as suggested.  I expect it
will be a strawman as much as anything.


Thanks,
Chris







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From: Aristedes Maniatis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Raw XML vs. Cayenne GUI


On 26/09/2007, at 9:57 AM, Chris Farnham wrote:

Do other people feel the same way I do?
If so, can Cayenne better support both modes of use?

Sure.

I would like to see documentation and examples that are XML descriptor
centric as well as GUI centric.

I think that would be useful to a number of people.

I also think that it'd be an interesting project to look at the
current
XML syntax and make it a little more user/text-editor friendly.  I
have
no concrete ideas on this latter point but I've been playing around
with
DSLs in other areas and it might be neat to either streamline
Cayenne's
XML syntax or create a DSL. Either of these could be transformed into
the current XML syntax.

The advantage of XML is that there are any number of ways to author
the content.

I only raise this issue because I've enjoyed using Cayenne and would
like to see it improve.

Such a thing would probably help other people and improve the
usability of Cayenne. Perhaps you'd like to start a page here:

http://cwiki.apache.org/CAY/

Eventually this could be merged into the main documentation.



Ari Maniatis



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