Since we are talking about packaging ...

To me, a separate cayenne-src.tar.gz makes the most sense.  Also, I'd
split the OS-specific Cayenne Modeler distributions up a bit more to
not even include the Cayenne libraries.  More and more people are
using Maven now and don't need the JARs in the Cayenne Modeler
distribution.  You can have a separate cayenne-lib.tar.gz.

mrg


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> wrote:
> Taking a fresh look at all the points made in this discussion, my conclusions 
> are the following:
>
> 1. Lack of mention of VPP in the NOTICE file is an omission that we must fix.
>
> 2. Other than (1), Cayenne has been making valid and compliant releases all 
> along, as we did include the source code that can be built into Cayenne 
> runtime that matches the binaries that we distribute. The issue of build file 
> is secondary. It is an issue of quality, not compliance if you will. Source 
> is now distributed as a single module, and writing build.xml to make a jar 
> out of it is *not* hard (or alternatively importing it in Eclipse, adding 
> needed deps based on errors in import statements, and exporting it as a jar 
> is trivial). But in any event, this is still a "quality" argument.
>
> Addressing Mike's earlier comment:
>
>> if you want to say that we're meeting the source build
>> requirement, consider this. It would mean that everyone voting +1 on a
>> release has somehow thrown a home-grown build-system on top of the
>> source release and successfully built it.   Because that's the only
>> way an evaluator can be sure that the release has met the condition
>> and the release manager hasn't accidentally left out some required
>> piece of source.
>
> Actually being able to build the source doesn't prove that release manager 
> haven't missed some files. The source can still build in such case (e.g. 
> consider an absurd case of RM throwing out Cayenne source entirely, replacing 
> it with one HelloWorld class). What exactly is proven by building the source? 
> It is just one of the parts of a release "smoke test" [1]. I guess you could 
> check out the tag and checksum individual source files and then checksum the 
> same files from release sources. This will guarantee no rogue or missing 
> contents. But this doesn't require a build.
>
> 3. Next steps. I suggest to restart 3.0.1 vote by fixing (1), and later 
> discuss whether we want to provide a separate source artifact made by tar'ing 
> up the source tree sans test cases and a few special modules. I think this 
> can be easily done with assembly plugin. So in addition to cayenne.tar.gz, 
> cayenne-win.zip, cayenne-osx.dmg, we'd also distribute cayenne-src.tar.gz (or 
> we put it in each one of the 3 platform files). Once we agree on a format, we 
> can open a Jira and add it in the following releases. My preference would be 
> to leave 3.0.* release structure untouched, and put it in 3.1.
>
>
> Andrus
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_testing

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