I've not used DocBook, either.  I've glanced at it a few times, but
that is the extent of my knowledge.  One thing I do find especially
interesting about DocBook is the ability to create HTML, PDF, and EPUB
documents from it.  That would allow easy targeting of e-readers
(Kindle, iPad, iPhone, Android, Nook, Sony Reader, Kobo, ...)

I've not kept up on ASF CMS, either, but I've read just a little about
it and am not sure it is the way to go yet.  I'm open to being
re-educated, of course.  :-)

In general, though, I think this needs to be well thought-out.

Thanks,

mrg


On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> wrote:
> I haven't used Docbook, but I've heard good things about it. I feel like it 
> will be a good fit for the docs.
>
> But what about the website (pages under CAYSITE space in Confluence - home 
> page, downloads page, dev guide, announcements blog, etc.)? These pages are 
> not "docs" and have different requirements (no need to distribute in PDF) and 
> they can benefit from no-delay publishing. So I'd give ASF CMS a try for 
> CAYSITE. Maybe we start by migrating this much smaller piece to ASF CMS and 
> with that experience in mind make the decision about the docs (CAYDOC, 
> CAYDOC30)?
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> good news: Oxygen will support Cayenne with free licenses. They just
>> need to know how many licenses we need. I now need to know who would
>> like to step up. Please give me your full name and your apache id, i
>> will then provide a list to the Oxygen guys who will in turn provide
>> you the license.
>>
>> Of course we/you should decide first if we really need them :-)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> we should start thinking about switching to the new ASF CMS.
>>>>
>>>> I've spent a lot of time over the last year working with docbook and am
>>>> finding it really rather nice.
>>>
>>> I had a time where I compared Forrest with Docbook and finally found
>>> Docbook very interesting myself. It can be generated to plain html and
>>> one can send patches. This are my strongest requirements. Besides, its
>>> easily editable and quite easy to learn.
>>>
>>>> rather than crafting it into html around the design.
>>>
>>> This is also true for the CMS.
>>>
>>>> This means, amongst other things, that we can
>>>> easily produce pdf/html/etc formats. I have lots of examples if people are
>>>> interested in seeing it.
>>>
>>> Right this is a very interesting option. As I understood Cayenne is
>>> made to be easy for the end customer, a downloadable, complete PDF
>>> guide is probably not the badest idea.
>>>
>>>> The main downside, is that all the docs need to be rewritten. And that's
>>>> lots of lots of work. The best docbook editor available is Oxygen Author
>>>> (not a free product).
>>>
>>> I have asked the Oxygen guy if they are willing to give out a few
>>> licenses to Apache people. Lets see, sometimes they do things like
>>> that.
>>>
>>>> I'd be happy to set up the basic structure of the
>>>> docs, the build scripts and a few pages. But I'll not have the time to
>>>> rewrite all the pages. If the consensus is yes to docbook, I am happy to 
>>>> get
>>>> the first part done.
>>>
>>> If the first part done, I guess the rest comes step by step. My guts
>>> say docbook might be a very good choice
>>>
>>> There are also Apache Forrest, Mvn Site, Piwi etc available for such
>>> tasks. But I think Docbook is the most stable and powerful tool out
>>> there. Mvn site is good, but also very basic.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>
>
>

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