Keep on dreaming. We may end up with a really nice feature spec :)

> On Nov 29, 2019, at 6:57 PM, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
> 
> This sounds very nice…
> 
> To do a little dreaming, it would be even more awesome if property lazyness 
> was controllable on a per-query basis, usage requirements tend to be quite 
> dependent on context.
> 
> A bit like a ColumnSelect that still allows you to keep all your fancy 
> DataObject business logic intact :).
> 
> ObjectSelect
>       .query( BigEntity.class )
>       .lazyProperties( BigEntity.HUGE_IMAGE, BigEntity.MASSIVE_STRING )
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 29 Nov 2019, at 15:25, Michael Gentry <blackn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, we can't always control the DB schema we have to interface with...
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 5:30 AM Maik Musall <m...@selbstdenker.ag> wrote:
>> 
>>> I’ll add a little caveat though. If a query hits lots of rows and thus the
>>> optimizer decides to do a full table scan (or a partition scan), the
>>> database could still end up having to read the blobs from disk, only
>>> omitting them in the returned results. So there may still be
>>> performance-related reasons to keep such blobs in separate entities (or
>>> elsewhere), depending on the specific RDBMS and it’s configuration.
>>> 
>>>> Am 29.11.2019 um 07:07 schrieb Lon Varscsak <lon.varsc...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, it's a great idea.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 6:06 AM Maik Musall <m...@selbstdenker.ag>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> +1 sounds very useful to simplify the data model here and there
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 27.11.2019 um 13:06 schrieb Michael Gentry <blackn...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just happened across an article on Hibernate which talks about lazy
>>>>>> attributes.  (A recent addition, I think.)  This essentially allows you
>>>>> to
>>>>>> flag an attribute/column as lazy and it'll be excluded from the
>>> original
>>>>>> SELECT query, but if you call the getter it will then fetch it in.
>>> This
>>>>> is
>>>>>> convenient for BLOB-type data that might happen to be in a main table
>>>>> with
>>>>>> other attributes (such as MIME types, file sizes, file names, etc).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thoughts on maybe adding this feature to Cayenne?  I can imagine
>>> there'd
>>>>> be
>>>>>> a "Lazy" column in Cayenne Modeler for the attributes to
>>> control/identify
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> mrg
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 

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