Hi Leonid,

Thanks for driving this work!

Once it's completed, we can ask the ASF Infra team to archive the old
`apache/cloudberry-devops-release` repo. All new CICD-related work
will be conducted in the main repo.

For the `cloudberry-bootcamp/sandbox`, I also plan to migrate it to
`devops/sandbox` based on the new file structure.

Best,
Dianjin Wang

On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 8:09 PM Leonid Borchuk <le.borc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, developers!
>
> As we discussed here I have created PR to move cloudberry-devops-release to 
> the main repository. This should simplify the process of developing new 
> features - one can add packages to build, change configure scripts and use it 
> in a code - all in one PR.
>
> The new file tree is
>
> apache/cloudberry/
> ├── .github/workflows/         # GitHub Actions
> ├── devops/                   # New: Unified DevOps directory
> │   ├── README.md            # DevOps overview documentation
> │   ├── build/               # Build-related files
> │   │   ├── automation/      # Build automation scripts
> │   │   │   └── cloudberry/
> │   │   │       └── scripts/*
> │   │   ├── packaging/       # Packaging-related files
> │   │   │   ├── rpm/         # RPM packaging
> │   │   │   │   ├── apache-cloudberry-db-incubating.spec
> │   │   │   │   ├── apache-cloudberry-hll-incubating.spec
> │   │   │   │   ├── apache-cloudberry-pgvector-incubating.spec
> │   │   │   │   ├── cloudberry-dev-repo.spec
> │   │   │   │   ├── build-rpm.sh
> │   │   │   │   └── README.md
> │   │   │   ├── deb/*        # Future DEB packaging (reserved)
> │   │   │   └── README.md    # Packaging documentation
> │   │   └── README.md        # Build documentation
> │   ├── deploy/              # Deployment-related files
> │   │   ├── docker/          # Docker images
> │   │   │   ├── build/
> │   │   │   │   ├── rocky8/
> │   │   │   │   ├── rocky9/
> │   │   │   │   └── ubuntu22.04/ # Future addition
> │   │   │   ├── test/
> │   │   │   │   ├── rocky8/
> │   │   │   │   ├── rocky9/
> │   │   │   │   └── ubuntu22.04/ # Future addition
> │   │   │   └── README.md
> │   │   └── README.md        # Deployment documentation
> │   ├── release/             # Release management
> │   │   ├── cloudberry-release.sh
> │   │   └── README.md        # Release process documentation
> │   └── tools/               # Utility scripts
> │       ├── elf_rockylinux_dependency_analyzer.py
> │       ├── elf_ubuntu_dependency_analyzer.py
> │       ├── s3-repo-sync-and-sign.sh
> │       └── README.md        # Tools documentation
>
> What I need - please review PR for moving files 
> https://github.com/apache/cloudberry/pull/1292
>
> I with @Dianjin Wang have been discussing changes but since the changes could 
> affect everyone, additional review and approval are strictly recommended.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 2:00 PM Dianjin Wang <wangdian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Regarding the sandbox files in the bootcamp, I plan to move them to
>> the `deploy/sandbox` directory. I also plan to refactor them to use
>> the Cloudberry build image as the builder. This will help us avoid
>> maintaining duplicate base image Docker files across multiple
>> directories.
>>
>> BTW, do we have a plan for moving `cloudberry-release-devops` to the
>> main repository? There's currently a PR that requires introducing
>> extra dependencies, and developers are having difficulty finding them
>> to edit.
>>
>> Best,
>> Dianjin Wang
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 5:52 PM Dianjin Wang <wangdian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Cool! Then I need to rethink the way how to reorganize the
>> > `cloudberry-bootcamp` better after our `cloudberry-devops-release`
>> > move to the main repo.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Dianjin Wang
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 5:25 PM Ed Espino <esp...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Leonid,
>> > >
>> > > Totally agree — let’s move the build scripts into the main repo.
>> > >
>> > > Having everything in one place will simplify development, especially for
>> > > larger changes like PAX support. It’ll streamline testing, reduce
>> > > cross-repo friction, and make iteration much faster. We can always 
>> > > revisit
>> > > a split setup later if our release needs grow.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for raising this — fully on board.
>> > >
>> > > -=e
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 1:47 AM Leonid Borchuk <le.borc...@gmail.com> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I totally agree. It would be great to have a single library where all 
>> > > > of
>> > > > our
>> > > > assets are stored.
>> > > >
>> > > > But until we start large-scale reconstruction work, I would like to 
>> > > > ask a
>> > > > slightly off-topic question: Why do we even need a
>> > > > cloudberry-release-devops?
>> > > > Why can't all our scripts be stored in the main repository?
>> > > >
>> > > > It happens to be rather tedious to use two repos, especially when 
>> > > > changing
>> > > > something big. Such as adding PAX support. For such a big change you 
>> > > > need
>> > > > to commit something breaking the building to the main repo. And at that
>> > > > point, your tests will fail. Then you have to fix the
>> > > > cloudberry-release-devops (add additional packages), but the tests may
>> > > > still fail. And now you could fix the tests and make a final commit. 
>> > > > And
>> > > > only now can one check if everything is OK. We could store all our 
>> > > > scripts
>> > > > together with the code.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best regards, Leonid
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 9:05 AM Dianjin Wang <wangdian...@gmail.com> 
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi all,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Over the past two years, the bootcamp repo has grown to include
>> > > > > various types of content, such as sandbox Dockerfiles, tutorials, and
>> > > > > learning materials. I’d like to start a discussion around 
>> > > > > reorganizing
>> > > > > the `apache/cloudberry-bootcamp` repo to improve clarity and
>> > > > > maintainability across our community resources.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The primary motivation is to consolidate content by type and reduce
>> > > > > redundancy, which would:
>> > > > > * Make it easier for contributors to find and update documentation
>> > > > > * Reduce ongoing maintenance overhead
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ## Proposal (for discussion)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I propose reorganizing this bootcamp repo as follows:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > * Move sandbox-related files to `apache/cloudberry-devops-release`,
>> > > > > where we maintain tools related to deployment and release automation
>> > > > > -- a new dir called `sandbox` will be created to store them.
>> > > > > * For the benchmark test files -- a new directory called `benchmark`
>> > > > > will be created under `apache/cloudberry-devops-release`, but we can
>> > > > > do this until these files are ready.
>> > > > > * Migrate tutorials, crash courses, and learning content to the
>> > > > > `apache/cloudberry-site` repo, which now serves as the single source
>> > > > > for end-user documentation. All of these materials have been copied 
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > our website repo [1].
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Once the content has been fully migrated and verified, plan to:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > * Archive the cloudberry-bootcamp repository, with a notice in the
>> > > > > README indicating that it is no longer actively maintained and that
>> > > > > the relevant content has been moved.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ## Request for Feedback
>> > > > >
>> > > > > This is just a proposal at this stage. I’d love to hear your thoughts
>> > > > > and suggestions. If most of the members agree, I would like to help
>> > > > > take action on this plan.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [1] https://cloudberry.apache.org/bootcamp#cloudberry-sandbox
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best,
>> > > > > Dianjin Wang
>> > > > >
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>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Ed Espino
>> > > Apache Cloudberry (Incubating) & MADlib
>>
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