The by-laws already stipulate lazy 2/3 majority for the Chair.

Chip is proposing that the same applies to committers and PMC members.

I see no reason to make it any more complex than that.


On 24 July 2013 18:33, Mathias Mullins <mathias.mull...@citrix.com> wrote:

> So I'm not even a committer yet, but this is an idea on how I think I
> would want to be voted in.
>
> For Committer - 2/3 Lazy
> This makes sure that at least 2 people basically nominated, and seconded
> and the votes were 2:1 in favor of the person coming in.
>
> For PMC - 3/4 Lazy
> This is the leadership of the project and there needs to be a true
> consensus and not just a majority to bring someone in. This allows for a
> higher consensus to be reached.
>
> For Chairman (I think you guys missed this one, maybe it was applied) -
> 3/4 Lazy with no -1 Binding Veto
> The PMC has to be in Consensus and there can't really be a major dissent
> in my thought process. Veto also requires a through explanation why.
>
> 2 cents,
> Matt
>
>
>
> On 7/19/13 1:27 PM, "Noah Slater" <nsla...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >Specifically, Chip is calling for us to change committer / PMC votes from
> >"lazy consensus" to "2/3 majority". (That is, the vote type for that
> >specific decision making process changes, but the vote type definitions
> >are
> >left alone.)
> >
> >
> >On 19 July 2013 17:32, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 04:29:07PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
> >> > There's several places in the by laws that call for Lazy Consensus.
> >>Are
> >> we
> >> > discussing modifying all of them or just new committer votes?
> >>
> >> New committer and PMC membership.
> >>
> >> sorry, I think the email could be more clear.  This is per the $subject:
> >> new committer / new PMC member votes only.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 7/19/13 9:02 PM, "Chip Childers" <chip.child...@sungard.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >As it stands now, we currently use a "Lazy Consensus" model (yes
> >>Noah, I
> >> > >know we didn't define that term correctly as of now, but I think
> >>that's
> >> > >a different discussion).  We currently have that term defined as:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Lazy Consensus - Lazy consensus requires 3 binding +1 votes and no
> >> > >> binding -1 votes.
> >> > >
> >> > >I'd like to propose that we change the PMC and committer voting rule
> >>to
> >> > >use the Lazy 2/3 Majority approach defined as:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Lazy 2/3 majority votes requires at least 3 binding votes and
> >>twice as
> >> > >> many binding +1 votes as binding -1 votes.
> >> > >
> >> > >Are there any objections to me starting a VOTE on this change?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >NS
>
>


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NS

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