So to get around this limitation, should we be looking at making appropriate 
changes to deployDataCenter.py to not try to add NS device if it's not 
supplied? The test would take care anyway of adding the device and configuring 
the provider.
Thoughts?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Soheil Eizadi [mailto:seiz...@infoblox.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:48 AM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: NetworkElements: configure the provider to enable the provider?
> 
> Hi Prasanna,
> The limitation you have highlighted "enable network service providers without
> actually adding the device" is not enforced by the NetworkManager but by the
> design of the NetworkElement.
> 
> If you have not registered a device with the Netscaler NetworkElement it is
> rejecting the Enable. The NetworkManager calls the NetworkElement isReady()
> and that determines if it is ready to accept the call to Enable. I assume that
> NetScaler NetworkElement code can not handle subsequent calls to Prepare()
> etc. unless a device is configured.
> 
> I assume those other NetworkElements you have highlighted, have chosen to
> return True on that call, and handle the subsequent calls e.g. Prepare(), when
> there is not a device, my NetworkElement behaves this way so that it can be
> enabled early when there is no device.
> 
> There is a design pattern to enable some Network Elements that offer service 
> to
> the Physical and Guest network in the call to createPhysicalNetwork() in
> NetworkServiceImpl:
> 
> .......
> 
>           // add VirtualRouter as the default network service provider
>             addDefaultVirtualRouterToPhysicalNetwork(pNetwork.getId());
> 
>             // add security group provider to the physical network
>             
> addDefaultSecurityGroupProviderToPhysicalNetwork(pNetwork.getId());
> 
>             // add VPCVirtualRouter as the defualt network service provider
>             addDefaultVpcVirtualRouterToPhysicalNetwork(pNetwork.getId());
> 
>             // add baremetal as the defualt network service provider
>             addDefaultBaremetalProvidersToPhysicalNetwork(pNetwork.getId());
> 
>             //Add Internal Load Balancer element as a default network service
> provider
>             addDefaultInternalLbProviderToPhysicalNetwork(pNetwork.getId());
> 
>             // add Infoblox as the default network service provider
>             addDefaultInfobloxProvidersToPhysicalNetwork(pNetwork.getId());
> 
> -Soheil
> ________________________________________
> From: Prasanna Santhanam [t...@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:36 AM
> To: CloudStack Dev
> Subject: NetworkElements: configure the provider to enable the provider?
> 
> I'm looking to enable network service providers without actually adding the
> device but it appears as if the addition of the device is coupled with the 
> enabling
> of the provider. While this is not the case with default providers like VR, 
> VpcVR,
> security groups and the InternalLbVm?
> 
> What is the reason for the restriction placed on External NetworkElements? In
> marvin integration tests [1] we want to be able to enable the provider whilst
> deployment and later add VPX Netscalers per test but this is not possible 
> since
> the Netscaler provider cannot be enabled during the deployment of CloudStack.
> The problem exists with the implementation of other providers as well like
> JuniperSRX, F5BigIp.
> 
> Nicira and Midonet however are always ready to be enabled.
> 
> I tried the following via API:
> 
> $add networkserviceprovider name=Netscaler physicalnetworkid=0d1a18d5-
> 837e-4973-8b06-ff1f3a8bdbfd
> 
> The netscaler element is registered successfully but disabled:
> mysql> select id, state, provider_name, physical_network_id from
> physical_network_service_providers;
> +----+----------+-----------------------+---------------------+
> | id | state    | provider_name         | physical_network_id |
> +----+----------+-----------------------+---------------------+
> |  1 | Enabled  | VirtualRouter         |                 200 |
> |  2 | Disabled | SecurityGroupProvider |                 200 |
> |  3 | Enabled  | VpcVirtualRouter      |                 200 |
> |  4 | Enabled  | InternalLbVm          |                 200 |
> |  5 | Disabled | Netscaler             |                 200 |
> |  6 | Disabled | JuniperSRX            |                 200 |
> +----+----------+-----------------------+---------------------+
> 6 rows in set (0.00 sec)
> 
> So I enable it using:
> 
> $update networkserviceprovider id=1a266697-838a-4322-b894-235bdc158da1
> state=Enabled
> 
> Async job d830d7aa-2a1e-44a4-a736-4885a668e8a6 failed Error 530, Provider is
> not ready, cannot Enable the provider, please configure the provider first
> accountid = e31a616a-1212-11e3-8a03-ef159ac306d1
> cmd =
> org.apache.cloudstack.api.command.admin.network.UpdateNetworkServicePro
> viderCmd
> created = 2013-08-31T13:58:12+0530
> jobid = d830d7aa-2a1e-44a4-a736-4885a668e8a6
> jobprocstatus = 0
> jobresult:
> errorcode = 530
> errortext = Provider is not ready, cannot Enable the provider, please 
> configure
> the provider first jobresultcode = 530 jobresulttype = object jobstatus = 2 
> userid
> = e31a7560-1212-11e3-8a03-ef159ac306d1
> 
> These steps feel counter-intuitive and the error message is a little 
> confusing too.
> It says I need to configure the provider to enable the provider?
> 
> [1] https://reviews.apache.org/r/13889/
> --
> Prasanna.,
> 
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