Well perhaps it should be a checkbox on the first zone wizard page, have it 
show up when the user selects 'use local storage'. it could say 'allow system 
VMs on local storage'. 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Darren Shepherd" <darren.s.sheph...@gmail.com> 
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org 
Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:46:32 AM 
Subject: Re: why system.vm.use.local.storage? 

I just find it annoying setting up a zone with local storage that I have to 
turn this setting on. If I have no shared storage, then system VMs won't deploy 
with out this parameter. It's just seems like a useless setting that might have 
been added because there is something else in the system that isn't working 
right. 

Darren 

> On Oct 31, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Kelcey Jamison Damage 
> <kel...@backbonetechnology.com> wrote: 
> 
> That's a good point. I know the system VMs are auto created if the system is 
> aware of their state being either 'Destroyed', 'Expunged'. If the state is 
> 'Starting', or 'Started'/'Running' then no actions are taken. 
> 
> In your scenario, the system VM would still be 'Started' in the database even 
> though communication is lost to the host, so no automatic action would be 
> taken. 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Darren Shepherd" <darren.s.sheph...@gmail.com> 
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org 
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:47:41 AM 
> Subject: why system.vm.use.local.storage? 
> 
> Why do we have the configuration system.vm.use.local.storage? Why would 
> somebody care if they systemvm is on local storage? I'm guessing the idea 
> here is if it's on local storage we can't bring it back in a host failure 
> situation? But don't we just recreate the systemvm? 
> 
> Darren 
> 

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