I have tried to put all together in FS at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Cloudstack+Windowsfication as Feedback section and added my comments there.
Please verify once and let me know if anything is to be added there. Thanks & Regards Damodar/ -----Original Message----- From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:32 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS Thank you all for your inputs. I will aggregate all these things into FS as appendix and will put comments there instead of replying here one by one. Once I am done with update in FS I will notify so that we can verify whether we are covering all or not. Thanks & Regards Damodar/ -----Original Message----- From: abhisek basu [mailto:abhisekb...@msn.com] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:16 AM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS Getting a Windows version will expand ACS reach to a large no of audience and make it more OS independent from its core. As far as the tools are concern, I am sure it's achievable, we have the most enthusiastic community contributors behind :) Sent from my iPhone > On 16 Feb 2014, at 1:08 am, "Alex Hitchins" <alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com> > wrote: > > I would guess that Windows has tools for managing a large number of Hyper-V > hosts? I wonder what ACS would add to that. > > I still think it would be a very achievable goal and worth doing. > > > Regards > > Alex Hitchins > > D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423 969 > > alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] > Sent: 15 February 2014 18:49 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS > > My view is that anyone who wants to use Hyper-V is very unlikely to want to > have Linux based management servers lurking around, because I think they'll > be pretty wedded to Microsoft to want Hyper-V as the hypervisor. So being > able to deploy windows based management servers seems essential to the use of > Hyper-V (for better or worse). > > I think also there are probably a lot of Windows based Enterprises who also > wouldn't like to a couple of stray Linux boxes running the show. I guess > Microsoft think there is a market for Windows based private clouds or they > wouldn't have created the Behemoth that is the Azure Pack. > > ...and Apache Tomcat have managed to create a windows port - so how hard can > it be? [tic] > > Regards > > Paul Angus > Cloud Architect > S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] > Sent: 15 February 2014 18:29 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS > >> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> wrote: >> I see this as that CS management server should run anywhere java runs. >> However, I see quite a few holes in this proposal. >> >> - Management server should never have mounted the NFS secondary storage. We >> need to fix that. Please have a talk with Kelven about this. I don't see >> us adding Samba to any machine that runs the management server. If this is >> just about seeding the system template, it can be done as part of >> installation rather than management server. >> - If I truly think about Windowsification, I think windows installer, >> windows service, opening ports in windows firewall. I don't see any of that >> here. Or else it's useless for windows people. >> - For java, most people write a windows service that launches the jvm >> and keeps track of the jvm. >> - There's a number of things that CloudStack management server does today at >> startup that should not be there and those are what complicates the >> windowfication. These things should be moved out of the management server >> and into installation. What should be inside the management server startup >> procedure should be checks, rather than generations. It should check for >> ssh key exists and the database version matches etc but it should not do the >> following. >> - Upgrade of the database >> - ssh key generation >> - iso generation. >> >> --Alex > > > A couple of more to add to the list. > There isn't really a good binary software dependency resolution framework for > Windows (at least not that I am aware of) and you potentially need lots of > different things - mysql libraries, python, ipmitool, or another shell to > execute shell scripts. Look at the list of the dependencies we install in the > RPMs for an idea of things that are missing. Is the plan to bundle those in > the binaries? (If so, we need to be having a serious discussion around a > shift of a number system requirements to dependencies which may or may not be > acceptable.) With what appears to be some serious refactoring in how the > management server works that Alex outlines and I doubt this is a short term > goal. (e.g. 4.4 timeframe). 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