Yes, I expect we'll see the same issue with S3, as well.

Punith - Is this something you might have time to investigate? Perhaps
Edison can point us in the right direction here.


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Francois Gaudreault <
fgaudrea...@cloudops.com> wrote:

> Punith,
>
> I highly anticipate the same issue with S3... it shares a lot of code with
> swift.
>
> My focus would be swift, but we should fix for both :)
>
> FG
> On Aug 25, 2014 6:33 AM, "Punith S" <punit...@cloudbyte.com> wrote:
>
> > thanks for opening this thread mike,
> >
> > since i only use nfs as my secondary storage provider, i didn't see this
> > issue till date.
> >
> > is this issue occurring even using a S3 secondary storage with staging
> nfs
> > store ?
> >
> > if so like edison pointed we need to fetch the virtual size from the nfs
> > store instead of S3 in the deploymentmanager.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Mike Tutkowski <
> > mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Edison,
> > >
> > > Do you know how difficult/easy of a fix this is, who might be available
> > to
> > > put this fix in, and for what release (hopefully 4.4.1) this fix could
> > find
> > > its way in?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Francois Gaudreault <
> > > fgaudrea...@cloudops.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Min,
> > > >
> > > > Ok, but this is not the behavior I see. Even without requesting a VM
> > > > create, the template is pushed to the staging NFS at least once. Is
> it
> > > > downloaded there or pushed after download, that I am not sure. I was
> > > > assuming the swift upload bash script was executed after the template
> > is
> > > on
> > > > the staging.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway... the focus is on the virt size, and you all know the code
> > better
> > > > than I do :)
> > > >
> > > > FG
> > > > On Aug 22, 2014 5:28 PM, "Min Chen" <min.c...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> No. For S3/Swift, register template will directly upload templates
> to
> > S3
> > > >> without going through staging NFS. It will only be copied to staging
> > NFS
> > > >> when we first use that template to provision a VM.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >> -min
> > > >>
> > > >> On 8/22/14 2:25 PM, "Francois Gaudreault" <fgaudrea...@cloudops.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Edison,
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Isnt the templates downloaded to the Staging NFS first?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >FG
> > > >> >On Aug 22, 2014 5:20 PM, "Edison Su" <edison...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I know the reason why the size of template doesn¹t have correct
> > > virtual
> > > >> >> size if it¹s registered in S3/Swift:
> > > >> >> In case of s3/swift, the template is directly stored into
> s3/swift
> > > >> >>through
> > > >> >> swift/s3 api, there is no place for cloudstack to look into
> > template,
> > > >> to
> > > >> >> find out the virtual size during template registration.
> > > >> >> While, if secondary storage is NFS, the template is first stored
> on
> > > >> >> NFS(which has file system), cloudstack can unzip the template(if
> > > it¹s a
> > > >> >> zipped file), and read virtual size from the file, then report
> back
> > > to
> > > >> >>mgt
> > > >> >> server.
> > > >> >> In order to fix it, we can add some code as: all the templates
> > > >> >>registered
> > > >> >> on Swift/S3, need to be downloaded to a NFS intermediate storage
> > > before
> > > >> >>it
> > > >> >> can be consumed by primary storage. After the download finished,
> > then
> > > >> we
> > > >> >> check virtual size of template, and report back to mgt
> > server/update
> > > DB
> > > >> >>etc.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com]
> > > >> >> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 1:38 PM
> > > >> >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > >> >> Cc: Edison Su
> > > >> >> Subject: S3/Swift Problem around Virtual Size
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Hi,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> This was brought up in a different e-mail thread, but I wanted to
> > > make
> > > >> >>it
> > > >> >> more clear that it's related to CloudStack's download code around
> > > >> >>S3/Swift,
> > > >> >> so I'm opening up a new thread.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Francois (from CloudOps) noticed today that when he downloaded a
> > > >> >>template
> > > >> >> (VHD format) to Swift (but it looks like the same applies for S3)
> > > that
> > > >> >>the
> > > >> >> physical and virtual sizes are set to be the same.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> This appears to have the following consequence:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> You can download a template with a physical size of, say, 3 GB
> and
> > a
> > > >> >>root
> > > >> >> disk that's supposed to be, say, 20 GB. Instead of the virtual
> size
> > > >> >>showing
> > > >> >> as 20 GB, it shows as 3 GB.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> This is not an issue with NFS. In that situation, the two sizes
> are
> > > >> >> correctly accounted for.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> What later can happen is the template is downloaded from Swift
> and
> > > >> takes
> > > >> >> up an unexpected amount of space on the XenServer storage
> > repository
> > > >> >>(SR).
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> If there is enough space on the SR, this isn't too big of a deal.
> > > >> >>However,
> > > >> >> for so-called managed storage plug-ins (examples are SolidFire
> and
> > > >> >> CloudByte), this will lead to them dynamically creating a SAN
> > volume
> > > of
> > > >> >>the
> > > >> >> wrong size.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Francois opened up the following ticket:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-7406
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks!
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Mike Tutkowski
> > > >> >> Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.
> > > >> >> e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com<mailto:
> > mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com>
> > > >> >> o: 303.746.7302
> > > >> >> Advancing the way the world uses the cloud<
> > > >> >> http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Mike Tutkowski*
> > > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> > > e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com
> > > o: 303.746.7302
> > > Advancing the way the world uses the cloud
> > > <http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>*™*
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> >
> > punith s
> > cloudbyte.com
> >
>



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