So what I see has happened is as a result of the DB upgrade from 4.3.1 to 4.4.1 
 the systemvm-kvm-4.4 (4.4.0-6) has been marked of type System, it's not 
deletable now. 
Also its ID in the DB is now present as the template to use for ConsoleProxy, 
SSVM and VR.
It's as if the hotfix was performed, although I have most certainly not.

Can I just go ahead and perform the hotfix manually, but for systemvm-kvm-4.4.1 
instead of systemvm-kvm-4.4?
I imagine it should just work, but would not rather take my chances at pulling 
another long night. :)

Lucian

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nux!" <n...@li.nux.ro>
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October, 2014 21:12:28
> Subject: Re: Is the 4.4.0 template still necessary for upgrade 4.3.x - 4.4.1?

> Well, hit a small issue:
> - added 4.4.0 systemvm - OK
> - upgraded management/db - OK
> - add 4.4.1 systemvm - FAIL - "Cannot use reserved names for templates"
> 
> So the names from the 4.4.0 and 4.4.1 systemvm names are identical and 
> conflict.
> I added the 4.4.1 systemvm as systemvm-kvm-4.4.1. Would this work?
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nux!" <n...@li.nux.ro>
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October, 2014 20:43:41
>> Subject: Re: Is the 4.4.0 template still necessary for upgrade 4.3.x - 4.4.1?
> 
>> Ok, cheers. I'll start shortly, fingers crossed. :)
>> 
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "dev" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October, 2014 20:39:50
>>> Subject: Re: Is the 4.4.0 template still necessary for upgrade 4.3.x - 
>>> 4.4.1?
>> 
>>> it most certainly does
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>>>> Right, so the steps would be:
>>>>
>>>> - install 4.4.0-6 systemvm
>>>> - upgrade management/db
>>>> - install 4.4.1 systemvm
>>>> - do the manual db hotfix thing
>>>> - finally restart the systemvms so they use the 4.4.1 template
>>>>
>>>> Does that cover it?
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Nux!
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>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "dev" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October, 2014 20:35:51
>>>>> Subject: Re: Is the 4.4.0 template still necessary for upgrade 4.3.x - 
>>>>> 4.4.1?
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>>>>>> ual sys
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> that would be once you install the 4.4.1 templates, yes. remind me
>>>>> often we need to upgrade the systemvm upgrade mechs
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
> > > Daan

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