Hi everyone,

I want to re-start the discussion on improving VR services and making a 
framework to build/improve old/new features such as reset password, dhcp, dns, 
vpn etc. that are both running on VR or on user VMs (reset password for 
example). For this, I’ve updated the wiki for high level goals and architecture 
diagram. Please share your comments and review on this proposal:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Agents+Framework

Kishan - Yes, I’m also want to have a mechanism to update/upgrade systemvms 
without say registering a new one, or say during the patching process it can 
upgrades packages; since recently we had seen several openssl related issues 
where a common fix was to simply upgrade the packages. See the above wiki for 
details.

> On 20-Feb-2015, at 2:48 pm, Kishan Kavala <kishan.kav...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> Rohit,
> Completely agree with the scalability and maintenance issues with systems 
> Vms. Using an agent inside VR will probably work well for KVM, since the KVM 
> agent (Resource layer) is remote. Communication using link-local network also 
> won't be a problem is such case.
> For other hypervisors, it will increase load on the mgmt server due to direct 
> agents.  Also, mgmt server cannot access VRs directly.
>
> The options you mentioned  are definitely worth exploring.
>
> Are you also looking at improving system Vm upgrade procedure?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rohit Yadav [mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:24 PM
> To: dev; us...@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Improving VR services such as password server
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to explore how to make systemvms more robust and fault-tolerant, 
> and the manual/automated QA of systemvms. One of the common user facing 
> issues related to scalability was the reset password/key servers where the VR 
> serves data using socat etc using forking mechanisms and global locks. This 
> slows down the processes such as reset password.
>
> More here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8272
>
> One of the blindly thrown solutions includes increasing the VR RAM which 
> works for at scale but then seems to fail again when the load is increased 
> beyond a point. I don't know of any performance and stress testing reports 
> that tell us about these bottlenecks. Please share if you have done anything 
> in this regard.
>
> I want to do couple of things:
>
> - Explore systemvm build changes using newer tools such as packer
> - Cleanup script execution and code in resource layer
> - Start replacing bash scripts with more robust implementations, perhaps a 
> single or few agents on VRs that provide non-hardcoded well-documented 
> interfaces
> - Right now everything in VR/systemvms is sort of hardcoded and the 
> services/interfaces are not well-documented. The idea is to refactor and wrap 
> everything we want to do with the systemvms in a general agents framework 
> that provides monitoring and managing the VRs (do stuff like upgrades etc to 
> combat things like ghost, poodle issues):
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Agents+Framework
>
> What are the other issues you've had in past that you would like to be 
> improved?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Rohit Yadav
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