Bumping this. Any progress on this? download.cloud.com is not an Apache property and is subject to the whims of its owner (Citrix).
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com> wrote: > Any progress on this? There's nearly a 100K downloads of systemvm > templates from download.cloud.com per month. Would be a shame to leave > these folks stranded. > > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > wrote: > >> +1. we need to figure out the way forward, but this needs to be done >> 'right' not just 'fast'. >> >> >> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> www.shapeblue.com >> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK >> @shapeblue >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Raja Pullela [mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] >> Sent: 31 May 2016 07:33 >> To: CloudStack Dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from download.cloud.com >> >> +1, hope we will be able to discuss this at the Collab this week and >> decide on the next steps. >> >> best, >> Raja Pullela >> Senior Manager, Product Development >> Accelerate, >> 2055,Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA >> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com,@accelerite >> >> > On May 31, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > I hope this gets discussed during the CloudStack Collab over the next >> > few days. Again, I'd urge everybody to consider: "what if >> > download.cloud.com went away next week". Waiting till some >> > hypothetical last date only means that we will scramble a week before >> that last date. >> > >> > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Chiradeep Vittal >> > <chirade...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Yes, the mirror site would be on github or apache.org >> >> >> >> Step 6 in the install guide would have instructions like: >> >> a. Install System VM Templates: >> >> <here, cloud-install-sys-tmplt has been modified to use the mirror >> >> list> b. Installing other templates cloud-install-tmplt >> >>> enter OS (linux only) >> >>> Ubuntu 16.04 >> >> ....Installing... >> >> >> >> Or, step (b) could generate a cloudmonkey script. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Cant we just host the mirror list in apache.org and then actually >> >>> host the mirrors in different places around the world? A company >> >>> could sponsor the few bucks a month for AWS and have one of the >> >>> mirrors be in AWS and the mirror list in apache.org would just be >> >>> updated to add the AWS mirror. >> >>> >> >>> Isn't that basically what we are proposing here? The ability to >> >>> have different mirrors with the 'official' endpoint being in an >> >>> apache.org endpoint to list the mirrors? >> >>> >> >>> *Will STEVENS* >> >>> Lead Developer >> >>> >> >>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >> >>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|* >> >>> tw @CloudOps_ >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Daan Hoogland >> >>> <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> is there no way, within foundation bylaws, to host this somewhere >> >>>> on apache.org? we are using peoples wibesites for tests as well, >> >>>> aren't >> >>> we. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < >> >>>> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> We could host a mirror here. We are in South America, Brazil. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> >>> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> I was proposing a new S3 bucket earlier >> >>>>>> (templates.cloudstack.org), >> >>>> but >> >>>>> I >> >>>>>> realized that someone needs to own the account. There is no legal >> >>>> entity >> >>>>>> for Apache CloudStack (except the ASF) that can enter into a >> >>> contract >> >>>>> with >> >>>>>> AWS (even if it is for a few bucks a month). To make this work, >> >>>>>> alternatives: >> >>>>>> (1) ASF Infra creates this bucket and IAM keys to the PMC to >> >>> operate >> >>>>> this >> >>>>>> bucket. ACS users might want to make targeted donations to >> >>>>>> support >> >>> this >> >>>>>> bucket, but I don't believe that it is possible. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> (2) Cloudstack.org gets registered as a (non-profit?) entity etc >> >>>>>> and >> >>>> ACS >> >>>>>> users make donations to this entity. PMC has control over the >> >>> bucket. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> A mirror list and a python script (e.g., [1]) sounds like a much >> >>> better >> >>>>>> idea :) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Raise of hands: >> >>>>>> Who is willing to host a mirror of systemvm templates and default >> >>>>>> templates. I figure we need at least 5, preferably all over the >> >>> world, >> >>>>>> especially in East Asia. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> [1] >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/284631-a-python-script-to-test-d >> >>> ownload-mirrors/ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> >>>> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Agree with Daan : we shouldn't be pushing these ancient insecure >> >>>>>>> templates! >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> >>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> :) According to Raja, there is some time before >> >>> download.cloud.com >> >>>> is >> >>>>>>>> doomed. Let's pretend that date is Jan 1 2017. Now pretend that >> >>> it >> >>>> is >> >>>>>> Dec >> >>>>>>>> 25, 2016 and we're still debating mirror list vs steps and what >> >>> not. >> >>>>>> Now, >> >>>>>>>> just change the 2017 to 2016 and re-consider. We need this done >> >>>>>> yesterday! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Daan Hoogland < >> >>>>> daan.hoogl...@gmail.com >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> send by tablet, no warranties in existence On 20 May 2016 >> >>>>>>>>> 09:29, "Paul Angus" <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I'm a -1 on adding another step to the installation process. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I agree with Will, it will only be another barrier to >> >>>>>>>>>> platform >> >>>>>>>>> adoption. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> The SSVM going and downloading the built-in template is a >> >>>>>>>>>> good >> >>>>>>>>> milestone >> >>>>>>>>> in a CloudStack build. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> To be honest the mgmt. server should be able to go get the >> >>>> template >> >>>>>>>>> itself if required rather than making it a user installation >> >>> step. >> >>>>>>>>> great idea, looking forward to your PR. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>> www.shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK >> >>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] >> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2016 23:06 >> >>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from >> >>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> sounds good, so if we put both sections together the worry is >> >>>> over. >> >>>>>> acs >> >>>>>>>>> is a complex system and requires a lot of reading so let''s >> >>>>>>>>> not >> >>> put >> >>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>> in a >> >>>>>>>>> different section. would be duplicate code anyhow. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> >>>>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you have to define "worry" :) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing an almost identical step to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/e >> >>> n/ >> >>>>>>>>>>> 4.6/management-server/#prepare-the-system-vm-template >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> If they can do that, then it is not a stretch to assume they >> >>>> can >> >>>>>>>>>>> download the default template in a similar manner. The >> >>>>>>>>>>> "cloud-install-default-template" (proposed) script can do >> >>> the >> >>>>>> mirror >> >>>>>>>>>>> checking etc. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Will Stevens < >> >>>>>> wstev...@cloudops.com >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I definitely agree with this. I don't think people doing >> >>> a >> >>>> PoC >> >>>>>>>>>>>> should >> >>>>>>>>>>> have >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to worry about getting a template installed on first >> >>> setup. >> >>>> I >> >>>>>>>>> think >> >>>>>>>>>>>> that is a basic feature if we want platform adoption. >> >>>> Getting >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>> first boot process from download to first VM launched >> >>> should >> >>>> be >> >>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>> smooth as >> >>>>>>>>>>> possible. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >> >>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w >> >>>> cloudops.com >> >>>>>> *|* >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tw @CloudOps_ >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Daan Hoogland >> >>>>>>>>>>>> <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chiradeep, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes sense not to have this old default very >> >>> insecure >> >>>>> guest >> >>>>>>>>>>> template >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> still be downloaded but it would be nice to have some >> >>> kind >> >>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> meta-data pointing to the latest version of an >> >>> acceptable >> >>>>>>>>> template >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (symlink) for trial installs so PoCcers are swiftly on >> >>>> their >> >>>>>> way. >> >>>>>>>>> Would you agree? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> >>>>>>>>>>> chirade...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I meant the auto-download of default templates, not >> >>>>> systemvm. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that the initial systemvm template has to be >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hand-downloaded >> >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are a single hypervisor cloud, then that is all >> >>>> that >> >>>>>> is >> >>>>>>>>>>> needed. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion < >> >>>>>>>>>>> pd...@cloudops.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be -1 about disabling the autodownload of >> >>> the >> >>>>>>>>> systemvm >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> template, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has this should be simplify deployment of a >> >>> cloudstack >> >>>>>>>>> system. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although, the download URL should be a configurable >> >>>>> value, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe >> >>>>>>>>>>> in a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property file or thru the API somehow or via a >> >>>>> pre-install >> >>>>>>>>> command. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really like download.cloudstack.org + mirror. >> >>> I'm >> >>>>>> looking >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> getting >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DNS entry: builds.cloudstack.org for the new >> >>> Jenkins >> >>>>> and I >> >>>>>>>>> got >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no objections on using the cloudstack.org domain >> >>> for >> >>>>>>>>> community >> >>>>>>>>>>> services >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> so >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty sure we would be ok to use >> >>>>> download.cloudstack.org, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where >> >>>>>>>>>>>> would >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting this up? on the current webserver of our >> >>>> website? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we >> >>>>>>>>>>> ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PL >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Giles Sirett < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree on the existing users - not the end of the >> >>>>> world. >> >>>>>>>>> We >> >>>>>>>>>>> could >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> even >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release a tiny patch to update the DB records >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The piece that we need to be really careful with >> >>> is >> >>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I've >> >>>>>>>>>>> just >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded cloudstack thing for the first time" >> >>>>> scenario >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But - there seems to be plenty of good ideas >> >>> flowing >> >>>> on >> >>>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giles >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N >> >>> 4HSUK >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbol...@gmail.com] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2016 09:32 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from >> >>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a user (with old ACS installations) I'd say >> >>> that >> >>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't >> >>>>>>>>>>> all >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troublesome, this is easily fixed by updating the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate db >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> records. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We should ensure that we have some good posts >> >>>>> discovered >> >>>>>> by >> >>>>>>>>>>> Google >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other search engines, so that when somebody >> >>> running >> >>>> old >> >>>>>>>>>>>> installations >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue they find the workaround. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a lot of time to reach out to users and >> >>>> inform >> >>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fix necessary. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Giles Sirett < >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a MAJOR problem and needs to be figured >> >>> out >> >>>>>>>>> before >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> current >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download site is removed - @Raja - have Citrix >> >>>>>> committed >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> being >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another year ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is my understanding that Cloudstack relies on >> >>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download >> >>>>>>>>>>> at >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build/startup and then periodically if people do >> >>>>> things >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >> >>>>>>>>>>>> build >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zone >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, users environments aren't going to stop if >> >>> its >> >>>>>>>>> pulled, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a able to build/install cloudstack and >> >>> it >> >>>>> may >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause >> >>>>>>>>>>>> issues >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when users make config changes >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is, for new builds, its hard coded : >> >>>> you >> >>>>>>>>> start >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sec >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Storage VM, CloudStack will try to download the >> >>>> built >> >>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>>>> template >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that its simple db change >> >>> to >> >>>>> make >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once an >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is running (exisiting users) but *may* require a >> >>>> code >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch to >> >>>>>>>>>>>> fix >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial install >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #notideal >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, this should be maintained by ASF/ the >> >>>> project >> >>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its >> >>>>>>>>>>> key >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software working, however my understanding is it >> >>>>>> involves >> >>>>>>>>>>>> binaries >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF is never keen on (and may be some 3rd party >> >>>>>> binaries) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - so >> >>>>>>>>>>>> that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wont happen >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apt-get is controlled by Wido et al (for which >> >>> we >> >>>> all >> >>>>>> owe >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> massive >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks) - but you are right, it is a 3rd party >> >>>>>>>>> dependency >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arguably a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPOF. But, if ASF wont host binaries, we're >> >>> always >> >>>>>> going >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>> have >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we could patch the code to point somewhere >> >>>> else - >> >>>>>> but >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where >> >>>>>>>>>>>> ? - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition its got to be something maintained >> >>> by a >> >>>>> 3rd >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We had this debate some time ago when talking >> >>> about >> >>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ShapeBlue) maintain a repo for our customers, >> >>>> which >> >>>>>>>>> wev'e >> >>>>>>>>>>> always >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as public. However, there were concerns about >> >>>> having >> >>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> domain >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which I understand) - so apt-get became our >> >>>>> preferred >> >>>>>>>>> repo. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts on how to fix this: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. if ASF would allow us to create the host >> >>> entry >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloudstack.org. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its under their domain, but with the site being >> >>>> with >> >>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>> 3rd >> >>>>>>>>>>> party >> >>>>>>>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be allowed >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. maybe Citrix could commit to pointing the >> >>>> current >> >>>>>> DNS >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entry >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location (would be simplest but may be legally >> >>>>> complex >> >>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>> relies >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ongoing goodwill) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. make a mod to allow users to choose the >> >>> download >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location on >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can then maintain apt-get. To remove the >> >>> SPOF, >> >>>> we >> >>>>>>>>> could >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >> >>>>>>>>>>>> get >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> templates copied to a number of 3rd party >> >>> locations >> >>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> people >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose which one they use >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giles >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sir...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N >> >>> 4HSUK >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto: >> >>>>>>>>>>> williamstev...@gmail.com] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Will Stevens >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 18:59 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from >> >>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Ian, yes, but I think there is more to it than >> >>>> that. >> >>>>>> We >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> change >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going forward and we can move everything from >> >>> there >> >>>>>> over >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a >> >>>>>>>>>>> new >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the problem is with all of the >> >>> existing >> >>>> ACS >> >>>>>> or >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CCP >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> installs >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there currently pointing at the >> >>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>> URL, >> >>>>>>>>> so >> >>>>>>>>>>> when >> >>>>>>>>>>>> it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down, those installs have to be updated. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I don't understand exactly, but that is >> >>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression I >> >>>>>>>>>>> am >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from this thread. Can this be confirmed? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS* >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 >> >>> w >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudops.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>> *|* >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tw >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @CloudOps_ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Ian Rae >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <i...@cloudops.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, who controls apt-get.eu and given >> >>> the >> >>>>>>>>> (rather >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerning) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of dependency on the operation of the >> >>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>> - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it not make sense to use a domain that is >> >>> under >> >>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control >> >>>>>>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> party >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose alignment with CloudStack will not >> >>> shift. I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitate to implicate the red tape of Apache >> >>>>>>>>> Foundation, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but perhaps the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fabled >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack alliance organization would be a >> >>> good >> >>>>> way >> >>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>> handle >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Raja Pullela >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <raja.pull...@accelerite.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trust me, it won’t be go away overnight. We >> >>>> are >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requested them to keep it active for another >> >>>> year. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have the content copied over (I will >> >>>> work >> >>>>>>>>> with >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wido >> >>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verify >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this) to cloudstack.apt-get.eu and update the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (user >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides update and create a wiki to show how an >> >>>>>> existing >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can fixed to point to new URLs) we don’t have >> >>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependency >> >>>>>>>>>>> on “ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com” – >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right? sorry, if I am missing something here? >> >>>>>> Please >> >>>>>>>>> let >> >>>>>>>>>>> me >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development >> >>> Accelerite, >> >>>>>> 2055, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/16, 9:38 PM, "Paul Angus" < >> >>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Raja, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May I humbly suggest that someone at >> >>> Accelerite >> >>>>>>>>> speaks >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how long the content will remain on >> >>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>> ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simply losing the content on >> >>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overnight >> >>>>>>>>>>>> will >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone look bad >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London >> >>> WC2N >> >>>>> 4HSUK >> >>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raja Pullela >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 16:44 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content >> >>> from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are right, this change impacts both >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudPlatform customers. Not sure, if I >> >>>> understand >> >>>>>> you >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move away from “download.cloud.com” is >> >>>>> permanent. I >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t >> >>>>>>>>>>>> know >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long the content on download.cloud.com will >> >>> be >> >>>>>>>>> up/available. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on Wido’s availability, we can get >> >>> rest >> >>>> of >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>> content >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu, hopefully, by this >> >>> week ? >> >>>>>>>>> BTW, >> >>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com is left as is and will >> >>> stay >> >>>> as >> >>>>> is >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decides on what to do with it. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development >> >>> Accelerite, >> >>>>>> 2055, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/16, 6:36 PM, "Paul Angus" < >> >>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As this effects every copy of CloudStack >> >>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudPlatform >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> there >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was. Please may I ask how long we have to >> >>>> manage a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> away >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from download.cloud.com? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London >> >>> WC2N >> >>>>>> 4HSUK >> >>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raja Pullela >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 13:53 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content >> >>> from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Paul, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the additional file details >> >>> and >> >>>> I >> >>>>>> will >> >>>>>>>>>>> request >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wido >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy these as well. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, I agree with you there is every copy >> >>> of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack >> >>>>>>>>>>> out >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason why I have requested Wido to download >> >>> all >> >>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>> old >> >>>>>>>>>>> files >> >>>>>>>>>>>> as >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like we missed few and get these >> >>> uploaded >> >>>> as >> >>>>>>>>> well. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that Citrix owns the “ >> >>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com” >> >>>>>>>>>>>> address >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to get all the CloudStack related content >> >>>> from >> >>>>>>>>> there. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Once >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm on the content move Citrix may choose >> >>> to >> >>>>>> remove >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> content >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the location. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, I will get in touch with Wido >> >>> again >> >>>>> and >> >>>>>>>>> do >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that we have everything. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development >> >>>> Accelerite, >> >>>>>>>>> 2055, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Road, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, www.accelerite.com >> >>> , >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/16, 7:12 AM, "Paul Angus" < >> >>>>>>>>>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just picked up on this. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are a number of URLs which are >> >>>> hardcoded >> >>>>>> into >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database for the small built-in templates. >> >>> These >> >>>>> are >> >>>>>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> about >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every copy of CloudStack out there. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/f59f18fb-ae94-4f97 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -afd >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-f8 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 755767aca.vhd.bz2 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/eec2209b-9875-3c8d-92 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be-c >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 001b >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8a0faf.qcow2.bz2 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos56-x86_64.vh >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.bz >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/4.3/centos6_4_64bit.vhd.bz2 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/CentOS5.3-x86_64.ova >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos-7-x86_64.ta >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r.gz >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These will need copying and the CloudStack >> >>>> code >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updating >> >>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you can deprecate >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com >> >>>>>>>>>>> or >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents for some time, without causing a lot >> >>> of >> >>>>>> issues >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> users. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Short Term - all the content has moved to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which sections to be modified? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Install Guide needs to be modified. >> >>>> Sample >> >>>>>>>>>>>> links/details >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned below for 4.6 and same needs to >> >>> be >> >>>>>>>>> updated >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> other >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Released versions of Cloudstack >> >>>> documentation: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installa >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tion >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /en/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 >> >>> .6/management-server/#downloading-vhd-util >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section - Downloading vhd-util¶ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What to do modified ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify URL from >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com.s3.amazonaws.com/tools/vhd-util >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/tools/vhd-util >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Rajsekhar can you please update the >> >>>> sections ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Accelerite, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2055, Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA >> >>>> 95054, >> >>>>>> USA >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010, >> >>> www.accelerite.com, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> 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