The whole ruby platform is running out of steam, high time to move to Packer 
while moving system VMS to Debian9.

- Satki


> On 31-Jul-2017, at 2:41 PM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> 
> Depending on the timescales that we looking at, if we can get an agreement to 
> use Packer going forward, there is an argument to say that spending time 
> getting the Debian 9 template to work on VeeWee and then on Packer is wasted 
> effort and that we should just use this as the opportunity to move over to 
> Packer/Debian9.
> 
> Having spent the weekend fighting with RVM/VeeWee/Ruby.  And finding that 
> we've hard linked rvm to Ruby 2.1.1 when it's now on 2.4, Veewee hasn't been 
> updated for years  and other mismatches.  I'm very interested to see other 
> options explored.
> 
> Veewee doesn't do the disk conversions at them moment, so we can still keep 
> that a separate process for corner cases that Packer (or something else) 
> can't manage..
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Paul Angus
> 
> paul.an...@shapeblue.com 
> www.shapeblue.com
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> @shapeblue
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rohit Yadav [mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com] 
> Sent: 28 July 2017 20:30
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate
> 
> I think we can move to packer once we can get the Debian9 based 
> systemvmtemplate to work.
> 
> I think we should focus on doing this first and then focus on migration to a 
> new build system as a next step.
> 
> 
> I spent some time today and with some help from veewee authors, I could get a 
> base template up and running:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2211
> 
> 
> The above PR branch is pushed on ASF remote and allows for 
> cross-collaboration with all ACS committers. Please collaborate with me on 
> this and feel free to push changes on the branch as separate commits and/or 
> make changes to the PR. Thanks.
> 
> 
> - Rohit
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Tim Mackey <tmac...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 3:59:36 AM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate
> 
> Syed,
> 
> I did a bunch of work on XenServer with Packer [1] before leaving Citrix.
> My stuff works rather well and was tested with XS 6.2, 6.5 and 7. It 
> shouldn't be hard to validate with newest XS and updated Packer - I just lack 
> the infra to do the testing.
> 
> [1] https://github.com/xenserverarmy/packer
> 
> -tim
> 
> 
> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Syed Ahmed <sah...@cloudops.com> wrote:
> 
>> -1 on Arch as well. Moving to Debian 9 seems the wiser choice IMO. 
>> I've used Packer before and I really like it, the only downside that I 
>> see is that Packer lacks support for XenServer VHD images. There is 
>> some work on a XenServer plugin but I haven't tested that. If the 
>> community decides to use Packer, I can do some initial validation of it on 
>> XenServer.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> -Syed
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Op 24 juli 2017 om 19:07 schreef Rene Moser <m...@renemoser.net>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Rohit
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 07/23/2017 06:08 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just want to kick an initial discussion around migration to 
>>>>> Debian9
>>> based systemvmtemplate, and get your feedback on the same.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's a work-in-progress PR: https://github.com/apache/
>>> cloudstack/pull/2198
>>>> 
>>>> Have you considered to replace veewee by packer?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Packer is really nice indeed. We use it to build our templates [0] 
>>> which we use on CloudStack.
>>> 
>>> Building the SSVM using Packer should be rather easy I think.
>>> 
>>> [0]: https://github.com/pcextreme/packer-templates
>>> 
>>>> Our friends from schubergphilis have already done some work here 
>>>> https://github.com/MissionCriticalCloud/systemvm-packer.
>>>> 
>>>> However there would be also an official way to convert the 
>>>> definitions https://www.packer.io/guides/veewee-to-packer.html
>>>> 
>>>> Regards René
>>> 
>> 
> 

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