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In that case I may be over-qualified !


Kind regards,

Paul Angus

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-----Original Message-----
From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
Will Stevens
Sent: 22 November 2017 16:49
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: CloudStack LTS EOL date?

Paul, I thought a 'big mouth' was a prerequisite for the RM position.
Isn't that the only reason I was the 4.9 RM?  :P

*Will Stevens*
CTO

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On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:

> HI All,
>
> The current LTS cycle is based on having an LTS release twice a year 
> (at the time of design, ACS releases were coming out monthly).
>
> So, twice a year (nominally, January and July) we take the then 
> current version of CloudStack, and declare that an LTS version, for 
> which would we would then backport fixes for a period of up to 2 
> years.  Thereby giving end users a version of CloudStack which would 
> receive bug fixes for an extended period.
>
> This year however, the current version in January was the same as the 
> current version in July, therefore 4.9 became the 'July' LTS as well 
> as January LTS and therefore 4.9 will be supported until summer 2019 
> (hence the 4.9.3 release)
>
> I and a number of my colleagues remain committed to continue to 
> support 'LTS' releases in this fashion (there just wasn't anything 
> really to 'announce' in July), which may be why people think that 
> nothing is happening.
>
> With 2 LTS releases a year (6 months apart), 'next LTS +6 months' 
> would only be 12 months from release.  Which I think is really too 
> short a period for the majority of enterprises.  Although we haven't 
> written it this way, the current scheme gives a EOL of 'next LTS + 18 months'.
>
> So, I'm in favour of leaving things as they are.   The wiki page looks
> like it needs updating to be clearer (I'm happy to do that)
>
>
> But I DO think that we should start a new thread asking for a 4.11 RM
> volunteer to get things going.   (I'm guessing y'all don't what my big
> mouth in that position).
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Paul Angus
>
>
> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ivan Kudryavtsev [mailto:kudryavtsev...@bw-sw.com]
> Sent: 21 November 2017 14:00
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: CloudStack LTS EOL date?
>
> Hello, it sounds very reasonable. The more lifecycle information the
> better for adopters.
>
> 21 нояб. 2017 г. 8:56 ПП пользователь "Marc-Aurèle Brothier - Exoscale" <
> ma...@exoscale.ch> написал:
>
> > It makes more sense to me too.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2017-11-21 at 12:04 +0100, Rene Moser wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > The current LTS release is 4.9 which is EOL in June 2018 according
> > > to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/LTS
> > >
> > > AFAIK there are no works planed for a new LTS. The release pace has
> > > slown down (the high pace and leaving users behind fixes was the
> > > reason for the LTS).
> > >
> > > I am still pro LTS but in my opinion we should have defined the EOL
> > > in relation of the successor LTS release date: "The EOL of the
> > > current LTS is +6 months after the next LTS release."
> > >
> > > Small example:
> > >
> > > Current LTS 4.9
> > > Next LTS 4.1x release on 01.04. --> LTS 4.9 is 01.10.
> > >
> > > Does this make sense? Other suggestions?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > René
> >
>

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