😊 In that case I may be over-qualified !
Kind regards, Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue -----Original Message----- From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Will Stevens Sent: 22 November 2017 16:49 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: CloudStack LTS EOL date? Paul, I thought a 'big mouth' was a prerequisite for the RM position. Isn't that the only reason I was the 4.9 RM? :P *Will Stevens* CTO <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > HI All, > > The current LTS cycle is based on having an LTS release twice a year > (at the time of design, ACS releases were coming out monthly). > > So, twice a year (nominally, January and July) we take the then > current version of CloudStack, and declare that an LTS version, for > which would we would then backport fixes for a period of up to 2 > years. Thereby giving end users a version of CloudStack which would > receive bug fixes for an extended period. > > This year however, the current version in January was the same as the > current version in July, therefore 4.9 became the 'July' LTS as well > as January LTS and therefore 4.9 will be supported until summer 2019 > (hence the 4.9.3 release) > > I and a number of my colleagues remain committed to continue to > support 'LTS' releases in this fashion (there just wasn't anything > really to 'announce' in July), which may be why people think that > nothing is happening. > > With 2 LTS releases a year (6 months apart), 'next LTS +6 months' > would only be 12 months from release. Which I think is really too > short a period for the majority of enterprises. Although we haven't > written it this way, the current scheme gives a EOL of 'next LTS + 18 months'. > > So, I'm in favour of leaving things as they are. The wiki page looks > like it needs updating to be clearer (I'm happy to do that) > > > But I DO think that we should start a new thread asking for a 4.11 RM > volunteer to get things going. (I'm guessing y'all don't what my big > mouth in that position). > > > Kind regards, > > Paul Angus > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > www.shapeblue.com > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivan Kudryavtsev [mailto:kudryavtsev...@bw-sw.com] > Sent: 21 November 2017 14:00 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: CloudStack LTS EOL date? > > Hello, it sounds very reasonable. The more lifecycle information the > better for adopters. > > 21 нояб. 2017 г. 8:56 ПП пользователь "Marc-Aurèle Brothier - Exoscale" < > ma...@exoscale.ch> написал: > > > It makes more sense to me too. > > > > > > On Tue, 2017-11-21 at 12:04 +0100, Rene Moser wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > The current LTS release is 4.9 which is EOL in June 2018 according > > > to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/LTS > > > > > > AFAIK there are no works planed for a new LTS. The release pace has > > > slown down (the high pace and leaving users behind fixes was the > > > reason for the LTS). > > > > > > I am still pro LTS but in my opinion we should have defined the EOL > > > in relation of the successor LTS release date: "The EOL of the > > > current LTS is +6 months after the next LTS release." > > > > > > Small example: > > > > > > Current LTS 4.9 > > > Next LTS 4.1x release on 01.04. --> LTS 4.9 is 01.10. > > > > > > Does this make sense? Other suggestions? > > > > > > Regards > > > René > > >