The 72hrs window is more of a guideline than a rule, without lazy consensus I 
don't think we've any choice here, so Monday it is.

Kris - thanks, if we need RC2 and your proposed issues are blocker/critical we 
can consider them so meanwhile engage with community to get them reviewed.

Bobby - can you attempt login in incognito mode or in a different browser after 
upgrading to 4.11 from 4.5, rule out caching issue?

Regards.

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From: Tutkowski, Mike <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:48:28 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.11.0.0 (LTS)

Or perhaps just the first RC should have a longer window?

On 1/17/18, 8:12 AM, "Tutkowski, Mike" <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com> wrote:

    If all of our testing were completely in an automated fashion, then I would 
agree that the 72-hour window is sufficient. However, we don’t have that kind 
of automated coverage and people aren’t always able to immediately begin 
testing things out like migrating from their version of CloudStack to the new 
one. That being the case, 72 hours does seem (at least for where we are now as 
a project in terms of automated testing coverage) a bit short.

    On 1/17/18, 7:52 AM, "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@shapeblue.com> wrote:

        The 72 hours is to make sure all stakeholders had a chance to glance. 
Testing is supposed to have happened before. We have a culture of testing only 
after RC-cut which is part of the problem. The long duration of a single test 
run takes, is another part. And finally, in this case there is the new mindblow 
called meltdown. I think in general we should try to keep the 72 hours but for 
this release it is not realistic.

        On 17/01/2018, 15:48, "Rene Moser" <m...@renemoser.net> wrote:

            On 01/17/2018 03:34 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote:
            > People, People,
            >
            > a lot of us are busy with meltdown fixes and a full component 
test takes about the 72 hours that we have for our voting, I propose to extend 
the vote period until at least Monday.

            +1

            I wonder where this 72 hours windows come from... Is it just be or,
            based on the amount of changes and "things" to test, I would like to
            expect a window in the size of 7-14 days ...?

            René



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