Sounds interesting Gregor! Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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The contents of this e-mail (including any attachments) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of its contents is strictly prohibited, and you should please notify the sender immediately and then delete it (including any attachments) from your system. Thank you. > Am 10.10.2019 um 16:47 schrieb Riepl, Gregor (SWISS TXT) > <gregor.ri...@swisstxt.ch>: > > Automated UI testing is usually done by running a web browser, generating > artificial user input, then verifying the result either by DOM analysis or > image recognition on screenshots. > > Our devs have achieved good results with TestCafe: > https://devexpress.github.io/testcafe/ > It's very easy to write tests and run them in different browser engines. You > can even run certain browser engines in headless mode for automated testing. > ________________________________ > From: Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> > Sent: 09 October 2019 11:58 > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Primate as modern UI for CloudStack > > Hi Ivan, > > Thanks for your advice. > > I agree with the general idea of automating regression test for the UI, > however, I don't have the expertise around writing tests using best > practices, and I look forward to you or anyone else who can share some > pointers, examples or maybe a plan. Given the UI is largely config and data > driven, the number of components shouldn't be high except for any > customization we do for some views. > > > Regards, > > Rohit Yadav > > Software Architect, ShapeBlue > > https://www.shapeblue.com > > ________________________________ > From: Ivan Kudryavtsev <kudryavtsev...@bw-sw.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 09:37 > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Primate as modern UI for CloudStack > > Hello, community. I know it's just a voting process, but still... a piece > of wisdom from webdev company: > > 1. Manual testing is an extremely bad idea, you've meet a lot of > regression, much more than the backend typically has. > > 2. In our teams frontend/backend ratio have shifted from 1/1 to 2/1, > without UI automation QA engineers, so 3/1 is average ratio for real life > high quality web UIs. > > 3. Try to use/invent some sort of Django-like UI generator frameworks, no > code manually. I see the high risk of fail without that. May be need to add > some sort of metadata to backend first. The Cloudmonkey approach is a great > basic idea... Oracle also has certain frameworks for that. Ideally, to > define the forms and sitemap and generate everything else from the ORM. > > 4. Happy to see the initiative, as it could help to decrease the pace of > backend changes and increase the stability, as certain amount of > influencers turn into frontend JS developers. > > > > ср, 9 окт. 2019 г., 7:45 Anurag Awasthi <anurag.awas...@shapeblue.com>: > >> +1 >> >> Kind Regards, >> Anurag Awasthi >> ________________________________ >> From: Marco Sinhoreli <marco.sinhor...@shapeblue.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 4:10 AM >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>; >> us...@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>; >> priv...@cloudstack.apache.org <priv...@cloudstack.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Primate as modern UI for CloudStack >> >> +1 >> >> >> Marco Sinhoreli >> Latam Technical Director >> marco.sinhor...@shapeblue.com >> mobile: +55 11 95656-3636 >> >> Rua Gomes de Carvalho, 911 – Sala 316 >> Vila Olímpia, São Paulo, SP, Brasil, 04547-003 >> Phone: + 55 11 2818-3419 >> http://www.shapeblue.com/ | twitter: @shapeblue >> >> Em 07/10/2019 08:31, "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> escreveu: >> >> All, >> >> The feedback and response has been positive on the proposal to use >> Primate as the modern UI for CloudStack [1] [2]. Thank you all. >> >> I'm starting this vote (to): >> >> * Accept Primate codebase [3] as a project under Apache CloudStack >> project >> * Create and host a new repository (cloudstack-primate) and follow >> Github based development workflow (issues, pull requests etc) as we do with >> CloudStack >> * Given this is a new project, to encourage cadence until its >> feature completeness the merge criteria is proposed as: >> * Manual testing against each PR and/or with screenshots from >> the author or testing contributor, integration with Travis is possible once >> we get JS/UI tests >> * At least 1 LGTM from any of the active contributors, we'll >> move this to 2 LGTMs when the codebase reaches feature parity wrt the >> existing/old CloudStack UI >> * Squash and merge PRs >> * Accept the proposed timeline [1][2] (subject to achievement of >> goals wrt Primate technical release and GA) >> * the first technical preview targetted with the winter 2019 >> LTS release (~Q1 2020) and release to serve a deprecation notice wrt the >> older UI >> * define a release approach before winter LTS >> * stop taking feature FRs for old/existing UI after winter 2019 >> LTS release, work on upgrade path/documentation from old UI to Primate >> * the first Primate GA targetted wrt summer LTS 2020 (~H2 >> 2019), but still ship old UI with a final deprecation notice >> * old UI codebase removed from codebase in winter 2020 LTS >> release >> >> The vote will be up for the next two weeks to give enough time for PMC >> and the community to gather consensus and still have room for questions, >> feedback and discussions. The results to be shared on/after 21th October >> 2019. >> >> For sanity in tallying the vote, can PMC members please be sure to >> indicate "(binding)" with their vote? >> >> [ ] +1 approve >> [ ] +0 no opinion >> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) >> >> [1] Primate Proposal: >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Proposal%3A+CloudStack+Primate+UI >> >> [2] Email thread reference: >> https://markmail.org/message/z6fuvw4regig7aqb >> >> [3] Primate repo current location: >> https://github.com/shapeblue/primate >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Rohit Yadav >> >> Software Architect, ShapeBlue >> >> https://www.shapeblue.com >> >> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com >> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com> >> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London WC2E 9DPUK >> @shapeblue >> >> >> >> >> >> >> anurag.awas...@shapeblue.com >> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com> >> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London WC2E 9DPUK >> @shapeblue >> >> >> >> > > rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com > www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com> > Amadeus House, Floral Street, London WC2E 9DPUK > @shapeblue > > >
