Hi Alex,

No BGP or NAT66 on VR.

Route insert in to L3 handled or list acquired from ACS api.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 19:05, Hean Seng <heans...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, sorry for that, can use NAT 6 also .    I mentiioned DHCP6 , and you
> can point the gateway to /48 gw, and this does not need any BGP.  Maintain
> BGP or OSPF is good, but is a lot more complicated ,
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:57 PM Alex Mattioli <
> alex.matti...@shapeblue.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Hean,
> > Do you mean using NAT66?  Or did I miss something?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hean Seng <heans...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: 14 July 2021 16:44
> > To: us...@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Cc: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>; dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Wei
> > Zhou <wei.z...@shapeblue.com>; Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>;
> > Gabriel Beims Bräscher <gabr...@pcextreme.nl>
> > Subject: Re: IPV6 in Isolated/VPC networks
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I replied in another thread, i think do not need implement BGP or OSPF,
> > that would be complicated .
> >
> > We only need assign  IPv6 's /64 prefix to Virtual Router (VR) in NAT
> > zone, and the VR responsible to deliver single IPv6 to VM via DHCP6.
> >
> > In VR, you need to have Default IPv6 route to  Physical Router's /48. IP
> as
> > IPv6 Gateway.  Thens should be done .
> >
> > Example :
> > Physical Router Interface
> >  IPv6 IP : 2000:aaaa::1/48
> >
> > Cloudstack  virtual router : 2000:aaaa:200:201::1/64 with default ipv6
> > route to router ip 2000:aaaa::1 and Clodustack Virtual router dhcp
> allocate
> > IP to VM , and  VM will have default route to VR. IPv6
> 2000:aaaa:200:201::1
> >
> > So in cloudstack need to allow  user to enter ,  IPv6 gwateway , and the
> > /48 Ipv6 prefix , then it will self allocate the /64 ip to the VR , and
> > maintain make sure not ovelap allocation
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:55 PM Alex Mattioli <
> alex.matti...@shapeblue.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Wido,
> > > That's pretty much in line with our thoughts, thanks for the input.  I
> > > believe we agree on the following points then:
> > >
> > > - FRR with BGP (no OSPF)
> > > - Route /48 (or/56) down to the VR
> > > - /64 per network
> > > - SLACC for IP addressing
> > >
> > > I believe the next big question is then "on which level of ACS do we
> > > manage AS numbers?".  I see two options:
> > > 1) Private AS number on a per-zone basis
> > > 2) Root Admin assigned AS number on a domain/account basis
> > > 3) End-user driven AS number on a per network basis (for bring your
> > > own AS and IP scenario)
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Alex
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>
> > > Sent: 13 July 2021 15:08
> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Alex Mattioli
> > > <alex.matti...@shapeblue.com>
> > > Cc: Wei Zhou <wei.z...@shapeblue.com>; Rohit Yadav <
> > > rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>; Gabriel Beims Bräscher
> > > <gabr...@pcextreme.nl>
> > > Subject: Re: IPV6 in Isolated/VPC networks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/7/21 1:16 PM, Alex Mattioli wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > @Wei Zhou<mailto:wei.z...@shapeblue.com> @Rohit Yadav<mailto:
> > > rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com> and myself are investigating how to enable
> > > IPV6 support on Isolated and VPC networks and would like your input on
> > it.
> > > > At the moment we are looking at implementing FRR with BGP (and
> > > > possibly
> > > OSPF) on the ACS VR.
> > > >
> > > > We are looking for requirements, recommendations, ideas, rants,
> > > etc...etc...
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ok! Here we go.
> > >
> > > I think that you mean that the VR will actually route the IPv6 traffic
> > > and for that you need to have a way of getting a subnet routed to the
> VR.
> > >
> > > BGP is probably you best bet here. Although OSPFv3 technically
> > > supports this it is very badly implemented in Frr for example.
> > >
> > > Now FRR is a very good router and one of the fancy features it
> > > supports is BGP Unnumered. This allows for auto configuration of BGP
> > > over a L2 network when both sides are sending Router Advertisements.
> > > This is very easy for flexible BGP configurations where both sides have
> > dynamic IPs.
> > >
> > > What you want to do is that you get a /56, /48 or something which is
> > > >/64 bits routed to the VR.
> > >
> > > Now you can sub-segment this into separate /64 subnets. You don't want
> > > to go smaller then a /64 is that prevents you from using SLAAC for
> > > IPv6 address configuration. This is how it works for Shared Networks
> > > now in Basic and Advanced Zones.
> > >
> > > FRR can now also send out the Router Advertisements on the downlinks
> > > sending out:
> > >
> > > - DNS servers
> > > - DNS domain
> > > - Prefix (/64) to be used
> > >
> > > There is no need for DHCPv6. You can calculate the IPv6 address the VM
> > > will obtain by using the MAC and the prefix.
> > >
> > > So in short:
> > >
> > > - Using BGP you routed a /48 to the VR
> > > - Now you split this into /64 subnets towards the isolated networks
> > >
> > > Wido
> > >
> > > > Alex Mattioli
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Hean Seng
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Hean Seng
>


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