----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugo Burm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: RE: Hibernate vs. OJB
> OK, I have to admit, I did this on purpose (mentioning the front page > instead of the exact URL), because there are some more interesting Hibernate > issues on this frontpage (a link to an introduction to Hibernate, and a link > to a new book on Hibernate.) > This , IMHO, was a good thing. I spent maybe two or three hours browsing through that stuff :) > I promised myself not to get involved into a "Hibernate is worse/better than > an implementation of XYZ of the JDO specs". Because this has nothing to do > with Cocoon. > Why Not? Right now, IMO, we need exactly that. It is not really a matter of "Cocoon Needs to be implemented this way" but more "look at what I have done -- See where you can go?" Alot of Cocoon new users are like me-- I can *see* what is there, but have trouble wrapping my brain around the concept. Not the concept behind *cocoon*, but the concepts BEHIND cocoon. Every basic app I have ever wrote in php had the ADODB library. I really could not get into a technical dicussion about how it caches or performance stats used against an airline db. It is there, does what I need, and I have a database object (in PHP). Before I start making Client code. My point is that I think that a disscussion of Hibernate vs OJB (or another JDO Impl) is and would be valuable. Not a discussion about best practices or which is better, or licensing schemes, but how each *Could* be implemented. (Flow, XSP) I read and used your Hibernate wiki trying find my place in the Java Database world. I was actually looking forward to your postings on this subject - You *Understand it* -- I dont.. but I want to. (Yeah I kinda dropped your name on purpose.. sorry) It definately *Does* relate to cocoon in the manner of *adoption*. I have some very code-heavy PHP apps kicking around. I want to know how I can make complex mapping scheme in java so that I can port them to cocoon, so I dont have to maintain 1200 line files of html/php :) I think that just about everyone who is on the user list at least lurks on the dev list and follows these types of threads. So I do think that having a rough idea of how to do this mapping with one or both is a good thing to have kicking around or up somewhere as tutorials. For new people coming to cocoon and wanting to do ports of their existing stuff. JD
