On Monday, Oct 13, 2003, at 07:48 Europe/Rome, Andreas Hochsteger wrote:


Hi Stefano!

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> The approach above works but it requires two operations:
>
>  1) creation of the LO
>  2) connection of the LO in the linkmap

Can you explain to me, why you are always talking from learning objects in this context?

Isn't a learning object a bit too specific to be used as a general term?

Here's a list of documents which might be published on the Cocoon website with a classification if LO is suitable or not:
* HOWTOs (LO fits)
* FAQs (LO fits)
* Tutorials (LO fits)
* Guides (LO fits)
* References (LO fits?)
- Cocoon Component Reference
- Cocoon URI Reference
- Cocoon XML Schema Reference
* News (LO doesn't fit)
* Status information (LO doesn't fit)
- Changes, Todo, Planning notes, ...
* Release notes (LO doesn't fit)
* Event reports (LO doesn't fit)
* Links (LO doesn't fit)
* ... many more where LO would fit and not


As far as I see it a document would still be the more generic term and a LO a certain subclass of documents (HOWTOs, FAQs, Tutorials, Guides, ...), where the user can really learn something.

What do you think?

It's a matter of terminology and communicating with a intermediate natural language doesn't help, but I think that "learning" is the act of increasing (or modifying!) the state of your cognitive abilities (aka knowledge and ability to interoperate with your environment, physical and mental)


definitions of "learning object" are:

http://labs.google.com/ glossary?q=learning+object&btnG=Google+Glossary+Search

I personally believe that e-learning (as much as web services) is just a marketing term to refer to something that we've been doing since the web was started.

anyway, it's a philosophical detail: I think everything that we have in our documentation is a learning object, but if you don't, it's not a problem and we can get back to call them "pages".

But it would feel strange, though, to have the "video" of Sylvain's presentation about woody called "page".

We could call them "resources" (just like the URI RFC does), but then we would have to distinguish between resources created for human consumption and resources created for machine consumption.

My definition of a learning object is: a particular kind of web resource created for human consumption that can be referenced directly or indirectly thru the cognitive contexts that it exposes.

I don't think anybody would agree with me on that. It's just my personal view of the matter (some people have a more restricted definition of what a learning object is) and I'm fine with any other terminology, as long as the functionality of indirect referencing is taken into account.

--
Stefano.



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