On 28 Nov 2003, at 03:46, David Crossley wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:Reinhard Poetz wrote:
ok, is there a way for others to help you or in other words: do you need some help?
No, I move faster if I do stuff myself. There is no much code to write,
just a lot of glue and finding out the pieces of the puzzle and working
with somebody else is going to slow this down in prototypical phase.
After the prototype is ready, there will be *tons* of polishing to do, but I want to create the itches first, so that all of us can scratch later.
Mmmm, i am not sure that i like this approach. "Doco" sounds to me like one of the reasons that "Forrest" was started.
that's right, but forrest took a different path and now focuses on static generation of web sites, full blown content management is not at reach there anymore.
What is worrying is that this one-person thing (though i trust Stefano to know what to do) will have no community to land in and Apache will spawn yet another new project.
I don't mean to be cynical or anything, but Linotype and Portal landed in Cocoon as more-or-less functional things and not much has happened since.
wait a full second, David. I can't talk for Portal-oriented stuff since I don't use it, but for linotype, it was ported to be IE5/mozilla cross-platform, I received a few patches and Joerg is patching it to fix jetty problems and there were discussions about integration with cocoon forms and Lenya.
might not be "much", but it's something promising.
I know that there is a trade-off between too much talk and not enough doing. However, without any discussion there is a risk that something fundamental will be missed.
I already did a full blown discussion on Doco. Everybody expressed a warm +1 as several projects are involved: cocoon, forrest, lenya, james and slide. Nobody complained about duplication of effort, rather the opposite: everybody was happy to be used exactly for what it was designed to do.
What to know what I'm doing right now? I'm debugging mount_webdav in Darwin because there is a bug in their handling of webdav locks and I can't mount a slide repository under mach-o. Yes, C code and recompile part of my OS kernel, that's how bleeding-edge I'm getting.
If you think there is something wrong in the proposal, resurrect it and complain. I'm all ears.
I told you I'm sick of politics and want to do stuff. I'm doing it. It will be simply a proposal: it's easier to work alone that to make 5 different projects coordinating. If you disagree, you are more than welcome to continue it the "community way". We'll see who comes out with something that works faster.
After my proposal lands, you are welcome to tear it apart entirely. The design is public, as the discussions that lead to it. If you have technical suggestions, let's hear them. If you have community building suggestions, well, I'll be happy to listen to them after the damn thing will be saying "hello world".
In the meanwhile, as I said, don't wait for me.
-- Stefano.
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