I had a great laugh when I saw a screenshot of my own sitemap tracer application, copied in a Korean version, rebuilt and downloadable on the cocoon.apache-korea.org website (http://cocoon.apache-korea.org/application/c-tracer.html).. I have no problems with them taking my idea, but since they are posting it under the Apache flag, I was wondering wheter they will commit it back to the *real* apache CVS as well?
IIRC, your own sitemap tracer trial never made it into Cocoon CVS neither? So him copying some aspects of it is hardly an ASF concern (nor is your point really about the copying, of course).
About the 'abuse' of the Apache/Cocoon name/logo on that Korean website.... it's a complicated thing IMHO. Imitation is a sincere form of flattery, but as long as we don't have Asian-versed community members, we will not be able to judge the quality of his work anyhow. I sometimes have the feeling they are using a "different internet" somehow, and that it is very hard to see both worlds meet. The fact people use Anakia and Forrest, and those tools come default with Apache skins, doesn't help with this neither - we make it trivially easy to create a site which has an ASF/Cocoon look&feel. I don't think we should suspect anything malicious behind the use of the default skin.
About the tools thing: +1, but not as some cocoon scratchpad/subproject/cvs module thing which is is sneakily slipped under the door: if it comes to Apache and had been coded outside, and it has little community, incubation is the only entrance IMHO. If the incubator sucks, we should go and and talk with them about changing their rules. About cocoondev.org: I'm all ears, if code and community exist somehow.
Cheers,
</Steven> -- Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java & XML An Orixo Member Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
