Thomas Lutz wrote:
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That's the problem ! You're perfectly right. Every month I have to
re-convince my boss, that it was the right decision to kick out struts
and use cocoon instead. What he tells me is
"google around, and you'll find struts, tapestry, turbine in almost
every blog, onjava article and case study, but there's nothing about
cocoon.
Everybody says it's complicated, hard to use, and needs experiences
java developers, with all that action's stuff..."
All you find about cocoon are really old comparisons, where cocoon
without forms and flow has no chance to keep up with the others.
Some immediate small but powerful? improvements I could think of:
-relayout the startpage http://cocoon.apache.org
-- there should be a link to the sample setup on
http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/demos/release/
-- there should be a features page, with direct links to the samples
(something like http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/features.html, but
updated :-))
--- after two months i realized how powerful unions and cases are, and
there is nothing that points you to the power of CForms...
-- well, it is not allowed to compare in advertisments here in
austria, but, why not set up a comparison table of some major
web-frameworks
-- who cares about Cocoon 1.x and Cocoon 2.0 links on the start page ?
-- i recently read in a blog that it's really funny that a publishing-
and webframework like cocoon has a really unstructured homepage...
-- jorg's video idea ...
-write some articles ?
-- i don't know how easy/difficult it is to get onto onjava or
slashdot, but hey, some of you are apache commiters :-) !
-get the new doc's online... try to merge the wiki and the existing
docs, like php does... I think daisy is capable of doing this user's
comment stuff ?
-take the feedback you get from bugzilla to encourage the community
-- there are really a lot of patches supplied by the users...
-- it looks like bugzilla is just a one-way stack... patch in, never
out :-) ...
BUT :-)
I think it is the best framework around, and it won't be obsolete that
soon :-)
Thanks a lot for your input Thomas. You definitely show us the way to go!
Sylvain
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Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies
http://people.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com
Apache Software Foundation Member Research & Technology Director
