On Sat, 2011-10-29 at 13:55 +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hello all, > we, the maintainers of the Piwi Framework are currently discussing if > we move to the ASF.http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/piwi/?redir=1 > Piwi is an xml/xslt transformation framework in PHP. The reason I > write to this list is because Piwi has stolen many things from Cocoon > :-) We are speaking of Generators, Pipelines, Transformers, > Serializers etc. As you can imagine, Piwi is some kind of PHP > implementation of Cocoon. Due to the different nature of PHP we differ > on various places from Cocoon. But after all you can say, if you > manage to work with Cocoon, you have a good chance to understand Piwi > very quickly. > Therefore it might make sense to run Piwi as some kind of Cocoon subproject. > > Piwis goal is to create web applications quickly (as so many frameworks). > > One of the problems we currently are facing is community. Piwi has > only a small community, users know each one face to face. There are > many strong frameworks out there, like the Zend MVC. This might be a > problem Zeta Components is facing too (another ASF project). > > Now I am an ASF committer and member, working on various projects > (including the incubator). For me it makes perfect sense to move the > project to the incubator and start building up a community. Other > projects like Zeta Components and log4php might benefit from it. > Anyway, to make this happen we need help. We are only two guys and > therefore we are looking for other Apache Committers who are > interested in stepping up as initial committers, mentors, champion. > Please shout, if you are interested or let me know what you think abou it > > Cheers,Christian
Hi Christian, I can remember http://markmail.org/thread/g3gddotmzdwdc6v5 and especially Davids answer http://markmail.org/message/ujr7jrvmgddwcmmc ATM IMO substitute forrest with cocoon and you would have an answer. Do not get me wrong but I am not sure whether similarity in concepts justify being subproject of cocoon. Regarding the community I do not think that being subproject of cocoon would help with that neither. salu2 -- Thorsten Scherler <thorsten.at.apache.org> codeBusters S.L. - web based systems <consulting, training and solutions> http://www.codebusters.es/