Hi Rahul,
Thank you for your response. Now i know what our work mode is. First, we
split the whole project to a sub task list, finish it one by one, this first
job in the list is submitting my start code in Commons sandbox SVN, then i
should keep on submitting my code as patch to the project SVN.  But there
are two points i should notice:
1. i can not check the source code directly, i should give you my codes and
you check them for me.
2. my code should follow Sun conventions, i can refer to Commons SCXML's
source code.

In the following days, i will finish my start code format job under Sun
conventions and give it to you to share it to sandbox SVN. Then, i will make
clear milestones of this project and finish them one by one, submit it as a
patch to SVN once finish a sub task.

But there are two small problems:
1. i can not open the mail you marked as 5 (
http://markmail.org/message/hunh4xaoag3wiimu), so i am not sure what the sub
task's format is. If i can find a example, i will know it better.
2.i use my finished demo as start code, but i think there are many problems
in the demo. The most important point is that this demo's data model is not
complete, may be i should redo the data model and refactor source code, in
fact, i am working on it. So, it is certainly that the first patch after
start code is a very big patch.

Now i know mainly our work mode and i will finish start code format job as
soon as possible to submit it, at the same time, i will keep on building
data model structure for our project.

-- 
Best Regards

Gui Xun Long (桂训龙)


在 2010年5月6日 下午11:07,Rahul Akolkar <rahul.akol...@gmail.com>写道:

> 2010/5/5 Xun Long Gui <ustbco...@gmail.com>:
> > Hi Rahul,
> >
> > I am back and get ready for submitting my demo code to a SVN server, but
> i
> > do not know where can i share my code ? I saw something about GSoC
> sandbox
> > SVN server in the mail list but does not get the detail yet. So, i am a
> > little confused about how to start my sharing job, thank you.
> >
> <snip/>
>
> Yes, we are discussing what the SVN location should be for the GSoC
> work in this [1] thread. We will create separate SVN spaces for both
> the projects this year in the Commons sandbox [2, 3] order to:
>
>  * Make it easier for committers to provide and apply patches
>  * Make it easier for GSoC participants to demonstrate mid-summer and
> end of summer progress
>
> Likely, the creating of these directories in SVN will happen over the
> weekend when I get a chance.
>
> For the purposes of populating the SVN space with your work (starter
> code you have available now or soon), perhaps its best to follow the
> approach below, if you agree:
>
>  * Create a list of tasks associated with your main JIRA issue,
> SCXML-116 [4] as described in this email [5]. In particular, see the
> ATTIC-1 example mentioned in that email. I think such a task list may
> also help in your GSoC progress reports later.
>  * One of the first tasks, then, may be abouting posting your starter
> code into SVN. For that task, attach a zip containing the source you
> want added to SVN and I will check it in. Please use the coding style
> that is used in Commons SCXML code. Its pretty much the "Sun
> conventions" [6], but when in doubt, please check the SCXML sources
> for consistency.
>  * Further changes may then be supplied as patches [7] to the above.
>
> Let us know if any of this needs more clarification, or if there are
> other questions.
>
> -Rahul
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/thread/vrgis2xli3iofapd
> [2] http://commons.apache.org/#The_Commons_Sandbox
> [3] http://commons.apache.org/sandbox/
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SCXML-116
> [5] http://markmail.org/message/hunh4xaoag3wiimu
> [6] http://java.sun.com/docs/codeconv/html/CodeConvTOC.doc.html
> [7] http://commons.apache.org/patches.html
>
>
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Long
> >
> > 在 2010年5月2日 下午2:05,Rahul Akolkar <rahul.akol...@gmail.com>写道:
> >
> >> Hi Long,
> >>
> >> You can simply send emails to the Commons dev mailing list (rather
> >> than to me and CC'ing the list). I read mostly all emails on the list,
> >> and especially those related to SCXML or GSoC.
> >>
> >> 2010/4/29 Xun Long Gui <ustbco...@gmail.com>:
> >> > Hi Rahul,
> >> > Althrough Google told us that students should start coding job at May
> 25,
> >> > but i think, for me and this project, it is time to move now.
> >> <snip/>
> >>
> >> OK, that date is just a guideline really, its upto you.
> >>
> >>
> >> > I think this
> >> > tool is not a simple tool, two months long time is not enough
> actually. I
> >> > started coding experience job weeks ago and got a demo about this
> >> project,
> >> > but it is just a demo, if we want to make it well developed and
> >> practical,
> >> > it is a simple thing. Now, here is my develop plan, we should finish
> it
> >> step
> >> > by step, there are mainly four steps in all.
> >> >
> >> > Step 1. Finish basic data model design, create a visual state
> >> > add/edit/delete tool
> >> > We can use GMF to generate many codes for this tool, but the  premise
> is
> >> > that we must have a correct EMF data model about this tool. For
> example,
> >> > only if we have a ASSIGN STATE in this data model,  then we can find a
> >> > ASSIGN STATE component in toolbar of final editor. As we know, a SCXML
> >> > document has only one START state, if we make wrong in the EMF data
> >> model,
> >> > may be in the final editor, we can add several START states for a
> SCXML
> >> > document, obviously, it is wrong.
> >> >
> >> > So,EMF data model is very important for a GMF visual editor, and SCXML
> >> > specification is not a simple specification, i should read it
> carefully
> >> and
> >> > even get a proper data model for this project. Fortunately, i have
> >> cleaned
> >> > all the technology difficulites in this period. I need just time to
> >> finish
> >> > this period. I think it will cost me 5-6 weeks.
> >> >
> >> <snap/>
> >>
> >> Yes, getting the EMF model correct is ofcourse important. If you think
> >> its a good idea, it may be better to make some editor function
> >> available much sooner than 5 weeks (perhaps with a smaller feature
> >> set) and then improve it or complete the coverage for the SCXML
> >> specification. So, we may simply start with what you have in your
> >> demo, get it in SVN now or within a few days (by submitting a patch in
> >> JIRA) and have others try it out while you make improvements.
> >>
> >> In general, I think its better to get in the habit of making
> >> incremental changes and SVN commits. Not only does this allow other
> >> developers here to follow what you are doing, but will also be useful
> >> during your mid-summer and end of summer progress reports and
> >> deliverables for GSoC.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Step 2. SCXML document export and import function
> >> > After we finish a SCXML document edit job in this tool, we should
> export
> >> it
> >> > to a XML format document, this is a data model to xml document job,
> not
> >> very
> >> > hard.
> >> >
> >> > Also, we should supplies SCXML document import function, users use
> this
> >> tool
> >> > to import existing SCXML document, then edit, and export it again. I
> >> think
> >> > this is also a regular job process.
> >> >
> >> <snip/>
> >>
> >> If we can get a usable level of round-tripping between the SCXML
> >> serialization and the editor (editor -> XML -> editor as well as XML
> >> -> editor -> XML style scenarios), that'd be nice indeed.
> >>
> >>
> >> > In this period, we should finish some Eclipse extension point
> >> implemention
> >> > job as well as data model to XML transfer job, it will cost me 2-3
> weeks.
> >> >
> >> > Step 3. Degug function
> >> > It is hard to finish a fantastic debug tool, especially in such a
> short
> >> > time. But at least, i will finsih state logic check part for this
> tool.
> >> For
> >> > example, if there is a dead loop in the state transition diagram, this
> >> tool
> >> > will give user some tips and warnings.
> >> >
> >> > Step 4. Code generation function
> >> > If we have time left, i want to finish JAVA code generation job for
> this
> >> > tool. It will generate JAVA classes with the same function with
> editing
> >> > SCXML document.
> >> >
> >> <snap/>
> >>
> >> OK, would you like to start documenting (perhaps on the wiki) the
> >> plans for Steps 3 and 4 in more detail over the next couple of weeks?
> >> We can always revise the estimates later based on progress in Steps 1
> >> and 2 and the time those take. Will also help to start brainstorming
> >> suitable approaches towards implementing these.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Rahul, as you pointed before, Step 1 and 2 are the core components for
> >> this
> >> > tool, so i will pay much attention to this two parts, if we can finish
> >> these
> >> > two parts well, many people will benefit from this tool. I want to
> >> > contribute this tool to Apache Commons SCXML project as a beta publish
> >> > version once i finish these two steps. Then,more user and developers
> can
> >> > find it in Apache web site, may be they can also give us some good
> >> advises
> >> > to improve it.
> >> >
> >> > Step 3 and 4 is extend functions for this tool, it will make this tool
> >> > better, but these two parts exist in my brain only, i have not done
> any
> >> > experiments to get right ways to impelent them. I will try my best to
> >> finish
> >> > them well, may be in Google Summer Code time, i can not finish them,
> but
> >> i
> >> > will still work for them.
> >> >
> >> > This is my plan, your opinion ? Thank you !
> >> <snip/>
> >>
> >> See comments above. Thanks for getting started :-)
> >>
> >> -Rahul
> >>
> >>
> >> > --
> >> > Best Regards
> >> >
> >> > Gui Xun Long (桂训龙)
> >> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Gui Xun Long (桂训龙)
> >
>
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