Luc,
Thanks for your help. I've created a JIRA with the archive attached as
you suggest.
I understand it will take some time to review this, and I'm willing to
make changes if necessary.
I will get a SGA and a ICLA over to the Foundation.
Bill
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Le 08/06/2010 23:07, Bill Rossi a écrit :
Luc,
I'm OK with providing an ICLA or SGA or both. A bit of history on the
project to help you decide what is appropriate:
While working for my employer some last year we noticed some of these
functions were slow. I quickly wrote a couple of faster replacements.
Seperately I decided to take the idea and see how far I could push it.
On my own time I developed an new implementaion that had all the
characteristics I described earlier.
Although it seemed unlikely that my employer would try claim ownership
of software that I didn't write for them, I have asked for and obtained
a written declaration from them saying they have no claim on it.
Then I would ask you if you could provide a Software Grant Agreement,
signed by yourself.
It was an interesting project and I'm just tring to solve this problem
so others won't have to deal with it again. I'm happy to help maintain
it, but I do have a limited amount of time available for that.
We all have limited time, so we would be happy with someone like you
helping us.
As for the size of the project, the software itself is 2690 lines. The
test cases and tools used to create the software add an additional 2430
lines. The project was started in Oct 2009, so not quite a year yet.
Whoa. It is a huge project! We definitely need a SGA for such a beast.
So the next step would be as James advised: open a JIRA issue explaining
your proposal and including a link to this thread
(<http://markmail.org/message/zyeoguw6gwtofm62>) and attach an archive
with the code on it so we can review it. You should also send both an
SGA and an ICLA to the foundation (these are legal papers, so a physical
copy -fax or paper mail- is needed rather than an e-mail).
We will discuss on this list about your proposal to decide if we can
include it or not, with or without changes.
Please keep in mind that we too have limited time, so we may take some
time to review and discuss this. As an example, I already have to review
a proposal made by another committer (Gilles), and failed to do it up to
now (I'm sorry for that and will try to do it soon).
Luc
I also previously tried to interest the people at the jQuantLib project
(http://www.jquantlib.org), but they don't seem very interested.
Bill
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Le 08/06/2010 21:16, James Carman a écrit :
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Luc Maisonobe <luc.maison...@free.fr>
wrote:
I would say it depends both on the size of the contribution and the
fact
it is completely new or a patch on existing code. The examples I
know of
are the mantissa library I contributed in 2006, the simplex solver Ben
contributed last year and the microsphere interpolation Gilles
contributed last year too. In these 3 cases, the size was of the order
of magnitude of 100s or 1000s of lines and it was for new features. We
asked for a software grant in all cases.
We asked for the grant because it was required or just as a precaution?
It was required for at least the two first cases. Concerning Mantissa,
it was an existing product I wrote and published under the terms of the
modified BSD license, so it was a large set of code and there was a
license change. Concerning the simplex solver, it was developed by Ben
inside Google so we needed some signed form by a Google exec. I asked on
the legal list for this case and they considered the software grant was
really needed.
Considering microsphere, I checked further: we didn't ask for a software
Grant but rather for an ICLA from Gilles, because he developed it
explicitely for inclusion in commons-math.
I think formally a Software Grant would be needed for all things
imported from outside without having been developed explicitely for the
foundation. The page on the foundation site reads:
When an individual or corporation decides to donate a body of
existing software or documentation to one of the Apache projects,
they need to execute a formal Software Grant Agreement (SGA) with the
ASF. Typically, this is done after negotiating approval with the ASF
Incubator or one of the PMCs, since the ASF will not accept software
unless there is a viable community available to support a
collaborative project.
As I understand Bill's first message about FastMath, he developed it
over one year and wants to contribute it afterwards, so we need a
Software Grant. Of course it would be even better if at the same time he
would provide an ICLA to be able to maintain it as part of Apache
commons-math.
Luc
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