On Aug 16, 2011, at 18:01, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 16 August 2011 22:53, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Julius Davies <juliusdav...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>> Please see the recent discussion on adding generics to [codec] where I
>>>> propose "<O> encode(<I>)"
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Gary!!!
>>>
>>> I thought of replying to that thread, but I thought it's kinda rude to
>>> hijack a thread like that.
>>>
>>> What would be the pros/cons of just typing "svn remove Encoder.java"
>>> and "svn remove Decoder.java"?  What do people think?
>>>
>>
>> That would break binary compatibility and require and package name change.
>
> Agreed.
>
>> According
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CODEC-125?focusedCommentId=13083179&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13083179
>>
>> "The lucene/solr source seems not to reference StringEncoder. All references
>> go via Encoder. In org.apache.lucene.analysis.phonetic.PhoneticFilter, it
>> has the code:
>>
>> String value = termAtt.toString();
>> String phonetic = null;
>> try { String v = encoder.encode(value).toString(); if (v.length() > 0 &&
>> !value.equals(v)) phonetic = v; } catch (Exception ignored) {} // just use
>> the direct text
>>
>> In org.apache.solr.analysis.PhoneticFilterFactory, there's a registry map of
>> encoders listing the (known) StringEncoder instances but typed to Encoder."
>
> That's a pity.
>
> I think the best we can do whilst maintaining binary compat. is to
> deprecate Decoder/Encoder.

Deprecate in favor of one of the sub-interfaces?

Gary


>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Here is one thought in favour of removing them, at least from Base64:
>>>  sometimes I copy Base64.java into my own projects as a copy/paste.  I
>>> change the namespace.  Then I remove references to other parts of
>>> commons-codec that I am not bringing in, but that Base64.java refers
>>> to (typically Encoder, Decoder, and EncoderException).  The smaller my
>>> delta after the copy/paste, the easier it is for me copy the newest
>>> version in the future to keep my fork up to date.
>>>
>>> I like doing this because it can make the difference between needing a
>>> jar dependency and having no dependencies at all in some of my other
>>> work.
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course I am pretty focused on Base64.  I have never used the soundex
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm torn.  On the one hand, I suspect the Encoder/Decoder interfaces
>>> have been mostly unused, and analyzing the Maven2 repository could
>>> shed light on that.  Removing the interfaces makes sense if they are
>>> not really used, but on the other hand, improving them, making them
>>> actually useful, also makes sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> yours,
>>>
>>> Julius Davies
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Thank you,
>> Gary
>>
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