Hi Ralph!

I took a pretty deep look into log4j-2.0 already (even used it for a few sample 
projects). But I was not aware that it's also an abstraction layer/facade ^^
So by using log4j-2.0 in DeltaSpike, a container vendor could mix and match 
with other logging frameworks?

LieGrue,
strub



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> From: "ralph.goers @dslextreme.com" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>; Mark Struberg 
> <strub...@yahoo.de>
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?
> 
> You could look at the Log4j 2 API, but while it supports multiple
> implementations, is really designed to be an abstraction layer so that
> user's have a clear line between the API and implementation.  For the time
> being you can find the documentation at
> http://people.apache.org/~rgoers/log4j2/.  FWIW, Log4j 2 supports using
> SLF4J as the API to access it as well as Commons Logging. However, its API
> contains more features than either.
> 
> Also,
> 
> Ralph
> 
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> 
>>  Hi folks!
>> 
>>  Over at the DeltaSpike we are discussing about a generic logging layer
>>  which we can exchange easily.
>>  We have been reluctant to use slf4j because some containers use different
>>  layers etc. But jul is also not really satisfying.
>> 
>> 
>>  It should be easily shadeable and use java6 features like
>>  variable-argument parameters, typesafe logging, etc
>> 
>>  Would there be some interest for creating a commons-logging-2.0?
>> 
>>  We could also use this in OpenWebBeans, TomEE, etc
>> 
>> 
>>  We could also do the prototyping in DeltaSpike. There are also a few
>>  DeltaSpike committers which previously worked on JBoss logging.
>> 
>>  LieGrue,
>>  strub
>> 
>>  PS: this is currently in the 'crazy brainstorming' phase, so 
> nothing
>>  decided yet on our side...
>> 
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