Traceability by who?

PMC members can easily verify that what is committed to dist matches what they 
verified using what they downloaded and the MD5s that came with them.  They are 
the ones responsible for the vote and the artifacts so I don't see a problem 
with that.  Why you would need some sort of formal linking once the artifacts 
are published escapes me.

Ralph


On Nov 26, 2012, at 9:23 AM, sebb wrote:

> On 26 November 2012 17:01, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> Actually, if you use the Release plugin the artifacts will be uploaded to 
>> the staging repository. At least that is what VFS does.  They can be voted 
>> on there and then checked into SVN.  You can easily verify they didn't 
>> change because the MD5s go along with them.
> 
> But do the MD5s get automatically added to the release vote?
> And how can one prove later that the MD5s in the VOTE thread are the
> same as the ones in the staging repo?
> 
> AFAICT that is no different from uploading to anywhere else, unless I
> misunderstand what the release staging repository is.
> 
> The point is that uploading to SVN and voting on the URL+revision
> automatically provides traceability.
> Whereas AFAICT the other methods don't, at least not without
> additional work by the RM and all reviewers.
> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>> On Nov 26, 2012, at 8:41 AM, sebb wrote:
>> 
>>> On 26 November 2012 11:24, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 26 November 2012 09:53, Emmanuel Bourg <ebo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Le 26/11/2012 01:01, sebb a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope this all makes sense!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, maybe I misunderstood, but committing the RC sites for review into
>>>>> a SVN repository seems a bit convoluted to me. A good old upload on
>>>>> people.apache.org was perfectly fine.
>>>> 
>>>> AIUI that's what infra want.
>>> 
>>> If the dist/dev URL (plus revision) is used in the vote thread, it's
>>> possible to easily trace the files from the ASF mirror back to the
>>> actual files used in the vote.
>>> 
>>> This is not nearly so easy if the files are just uploaded to a user
>>> directory on minotaur - there's no proof that the the files that were
>>> voted on are the ones that were eventually released.
>>> 
>>> At some point the files must be uploaded to SVN; once in SVN they can
>>> be moved around very cheaply.
>>> 
>>>>> Emmanuel Bourg
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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