Let's go for that, just ensure to test all cases - app/server, app only,
server only ...-  (i can help for that) before the release.
Le 24 juil. 2013 19:42, "Gary Gregory" <garydgreg...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Also, for JCL we can fix things nice and quick.
>
> Gary
>
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 13:29, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 24/07/2013 17:15, Phil Steitz wrote:
> >
> >> 1) Do we absolutely need logging itself or is there some other way
> >> we could satisfy the needs here?  IIRC, there are basically two
> >> things that "require" logging in DBCP: a) abandoned connections b)
> >> exceptions / warnings.  In a), we want users to be able to log the
> >> stack trace of the code that opened the connection.  Case b) splits
> >> into all kinds of different stuff.  This may be a little smelly, but
> >> I wonder if we could not shove what is really needed in normal
> >> operations into JMX properties (which would just hold information
> >> from recent messages) and support a debug mode where things get
> >> spewed as today to System.err or a configured LogWriter.
> >
> > It is the smelliness I am trying to avoid. I think that was OK for pool
> > as there was very few places where we needed to log stuff. DBCP has many
> > more places and my view is that there are enough of them to do it
> properly.
> >
> >> 2) Are there any real reasons that commons-logging will not meet the
> >> need?  I have read the other messages on this thread and have not
> >> seen a concrete reason, other than "others like slf2j better."  Have
> >> we in fact definitively resolved the classloader-related issues that
> >> used to make commons-logging a bad choice?
> >
> > I haven't come across any for a while but that doesn't mean there aren't
> > some there somewhere.
> >
> > If we use JCL then those that support the dogfood argument can do so and
> > those that prefer SLF4J can just drop JCL and use the SLF4J replacement.
> > There might be an issue with dependencies in the pom for that approach
> > but I hope the Maven experts can identify a solution for that.
> >
> > Mark
> >
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