Are you kidding me?  We can't ascertain a file format from some
example file and create a similarly-formatted file in our test
resources which exhibits this format to make sure we handle it?  It's
CSV!  I can't imagine anyone can claim this is their IP.  Do they have
a patent on using CSV in this fashion?

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 August 2013 14:51, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>> Why not just create files that look like these files?  Do we have to
>> use the originals?
>
> If it's necessary to read the originals to create the look-alikes,
> that seems like cheating to me.
> I don't think that's something as a part of the ASF that Commons
> should even consider.
>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 8:56 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1 August 2013 13:48, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Emmanuel Bourg <ebo...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Le 01/08/2013 04:03, ggreg...@apache.org a écrit :
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > - Add some real world CSV files.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Are we allowed to distribute these files?
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > I did not see any copyrights, or licenses. I did not text that states you
>>>> > cannot. I do see text about "Open Government Initiatives" here
>>>> > http://www.ferc.gov/open.asp but that does not talk specifically about
>>>> > these sample files (as far as I read at least, which is not that deeply.)
>>>>
>>>> Since there is some uncertainty, please ask on legal-discuss (and/or
>>>> via a LEGAL JIRA) first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-175
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>> In the meantime, I think the CSV files should be removed.
>>>>
>>>> Even if we are allowed to redistribute the files (note: we are not
>>>> just using them), I expect there will need to be at least a mention in
>>>> the LICENSE file.
>>>>
>>>> > Gary
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Emmanuel Bourg
>>>> >>
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