With regards to what is happening in DsCompiler.pow():
IMHO, when a==0 and x>=0 the function is well behaved because log|a| -> Inf
slower than a^x -> 0. I got to this by simulation.
One could probably get to something more conclusive using L'Hopital rule :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27H%C3%B4pital%27s_rule.
There is one about xlog(x) behavior as x->0+.

So, I propose this:

        if (a == 0) {
            if (operand[operandOffset] >= 0) {
                for (int i = 0; i < function.length; ++i) {
                    function[i] = 0;
                }
            }else{
                for (int i = 0; i < function.length; ++i) {
                    function[i] = Double.NaN;
                }
            }
        } else {


in place of :

        if (a == 0) {
            if (operand[operandOffset] == 0) {
                function[0] = 1;
                double infinity = Double.POSITIVE_INFINITY;
                for (int i = 1; i < function.length; ++i) {
                    infinity = -infinity;
                    function[i] = infinity;
                }
            }
        } else {


PS: I think you made a change to DSCompiler.pow too. If so, what happens
when a=0 & x!=0  in that function?


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Luc Maisonobe <l...@spaceroots.org> wrote:

>
>
>
> Ajo Fod <ajo....@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >Are you saying patched the code? Can you provide the link?
>
> I committed it in the development version. You just have to update your
> checked out copy from either the official
>  Apache subversion repository or the git mirror we talked about in a
> previous thread.
>
> The new method is a static one called pow and taking a and x as arguments
> and returning a^x. Not to
> Be confused with the non-static methods that take only the power as
> argument (either int, double or
> DerivativeStructure) and use the instance as the base to apply power on.
>
> Best regards,
> Luc
>
> >
> >-Ajo
> >
> >
> >On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Luc Maisonobe <l...@spaceroots.org>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Le 24/08/2013 11:24, Luc Maisonobe a écrit :
> >> > Le 23/08/2013 19:20, Ajo Fod a écrit :
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >
> >> > Hi Ajo,
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> This shows one way of interpreting the derivative for strictly +ve
> >> numbers.
> >> >>
> >> >>     public static void main(final String[] args) {
> >> >>         final double x = 1d;
> >> >>         DerivativeStructure dsA = new DerivativeStructure(1, 1, 0,
> >x);
> >> >>         System.out.println("Derivative of |a|^x wrt x");
> >> >>         for (int p = 10; p < 21; p++) {
> >> >>             double a;
> >> >>             if (p < 20) {
> >> >>                 a = 1d / Math.pow(2d, p);
> >> >>             } else {
> >> >>                 a = 0d;
> >> >>             }
> >> >>             final DerivativeStructure a_ds = new
> >DerivativeStructure(1,
> >> 1,
> >> >> a);
> >> >>             final DerivativeStructure out = a_ds.pow(dsA);
> >> >>             final double calc = (Math.pow(a, x + EPS) -
> >Math.pow(a, x))
> >> /
> >> >> EPS;
> >> >>             System.out.format("Derivative@%f=%f  %f\n", a, calc,
> >> >> out.getPartialDerivative(new int[]{1}));
> >> >>         }
> >> >>     }
> >> >>
> >> >> At this point I"m explicitly substituting the rule that
> >> derivative(|a|^x) =
> >> >> 0 for |a|=0.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, but this fails for x = 0, as the limit of the finite
> >difference is
> >> > -infinity and not 0.
> >> >
> >> > You can build your own function which explicitly assumes a is
> >constant
> >> > and takes care of special values as follows:
> >> >
> >> >  public static DerivativeStructure aToX(final double a,
> >> >                                         final DerivativeStructure
> >x) {
> >> >      final double lnA = (a == 0 && x.getValue() == 0) ?
> >> >                   Double.NEGATIVE_INFINITY :
> >> >                   FastMath.log(a);
> >> >      final double[] function = new double[1 + x.getOrder()];
> >> >      function[0] = FastMath.pow(a, x.getValue());
> >> >      for (int i = 1; i < function.length; ++i) {
> >> >          function[i] = lnA * function[i - 1];
> >> >      }
> >> >      return x.compose(function);
> >> >  }
> >> >
> >> > This will work and provides derivatives to any order for almost any
> >> > values of a and x, including a=0, x=1 as in your exemple, but also
> >> > slightly better for a=0, x=0. However, it still has an important
> >> > drawback: it won't compute the n-th order derivative correctly for
> >a=0,
> >> > x=0 and n > 1. It will provide NaN for these higher order
> >derivatives
> >> > instead of +/-infinity according to parity of n.
> >>
> >> I have added a similar function to the DerivativeStructure class
> >(with
> >> some errors above corrected). The main interesting property of this
> >> function is that it is more accurate that converting a to a
> >> DerivativeStructure and using the general x^y function. It does its
> >best
> >> to handle the special case, but as written above, this does NOT work
> >for
> >> general combination (i.e. more than one variable or more than one
> >> order). As soon as there is a combination, the derivative will
> >involve
> >> something like df/dx * dg/dy and as infinities and zeros are
> >everywheren
> >> NaN appears immediately for these partial derivatives. This cannot be
> >> avoided.
> >>
> >> If you stay away from the singularity, the function behaves
> >correctly.
> >>
> >> best regards,
> >> Luc
> >>
> >> >
> >> > This is a known problem that we already encountered when dealing
> >with
> >> > rootN. Here is an extract of a comment in the test case
> >> > testRootNSingularity, where similar NaN appears instead of +/-
> >infinity.
> >> > The dsZero instance in the comment is simple the x parameter of the
> >> > function, as a derivativeStructure with value 0.0 and depending on
> >> > itself (dsZero = new DerivativeStructure(1, maxOrder, 0, 0.0)):
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > // the following checks shows a LIMITATION of the current
> >implementation
> >> > // we have no way to tell dsZero is a pure linear variable x = 0
> >> > // we only say: "dsZero is a structure with value = 0.0,
> >> > // first derivative = 1.0, second and higher derivatives = 0.0".
> >> > // Function composition rule for second derivatives is:
> >> > // d2[f(g(x))]/dx2 = f''(g(x)) * [g'(x)]^2 + f'(g(x)) * g''(x)
> >> > // when function f is the nth root and x = 0 we have:
> >> > // f(0) = 0, f'(0) = +infinity, f''(0) = -infinity (and higher
> >> > // derivatives keep switching between +infinity and -infinity)
> >> > // so given that in our case dsZero represents g, we have g(x) = 0,
> >> > // g'(x) = 1 and g''(x) = 0
> >> > // applying the composition rules gives:
> >> > // d2[f(g(x))]/dx2 = f''(g(x)) * [g'(x)]^2 + f'(g(x)) * g''(x)
> >> > //                 = -infinity * 1^2 + +infinity * 0
> >> > //                 = -infinity + NaN
> >> > //                 = NaN
> >> > // if we knew dsZero is really the x variable and not the identity
> >> > // function applied to x, we would not have computed f'(g(x)) *
> >g''(x)
> >> > // and we would have found that the result was -infinity and not
> >NaN
> >> >
> >> > Hope this helps
> >> > Luc
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Ajo.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Luc Maisonobe
> ><luc.maison...@free.fr
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi Ajo,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Le 23/08/2013 17:48, Ajo Fod a écrit :
> >> >>>> Try this and I'm happy to explain if necessary:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> public class Derivative {
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>     public static void main(final String[] args) {
> >> >>>>         DerivativeStructure dsA = new DerivativeStructure(1, 1,
> >0,
> >> 1d);
> >> >>>>         System.out.println("Derivative of constant^x wrt x");
> >> >>>>         for (int a = -3; a < 3; a++) {
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We have chosen the classical definition which implies c^x is not
> >> defined
> >> >>> for real r and negative c.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Our implementation is based on the decomposition c^r = exp(r *
> >ln(c)),
> >> >>> so the NaN comes from the logarithm when c <= 0.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Noe also that as explained in the documentation here:
> >> >>> <
> >> >>>
> >>
> >
> http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-math/userguide/analysis.html#a4.7_Differentiation
> >> >>>> ,
> >> >>> there are no concepts of "constants" and "variables" in this
> >framework,
> >> >>> so we cannot draw a line between c^r as seen as a univariate
> >function
> >> of
> >> >>> r, or as a univariate function of c, or as a bivariate function
> >of c
> >> and
> >> >>> r, or even as a pentavariate function of p1, p2, p3, p4, p5 with
> >both c
> >> >>> and r being computed elsewhere from p1...p5. So we don't make
> >special
> >> >>> cases for the case c = 0 for example.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Does this explanation make sense to you?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> best regards,
> >> >>> Luc
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>             final DerivativeStructure a_ds = new
> >> DerivativeStructure(1,
> >> >>> 1,
> >> >>>> a);
> >> >>>>             final DerivativeStructure out = a_ds.pow(dsA);
> >> >>>>             System.out.format("Derivative@%d=%f\n", a,
> >> >>>> out.getPartialDerivative(new int[]{1}));
> >> >>>>         }
> >> >>>>     }
> >> >>>> }
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Gilles
> ><gil...@harfang.homelinux.org
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:17:35 -0700, Ajo Fod wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Seems like the DerivativeCompiler returns NaN.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> IMHO it should return 0.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> What should be 0?  And Why?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Is this worthy of an issue?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> As is, no.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Gilles
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >> >>>>>> -Ajo
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>
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