Jason submitted his patch [1], what should we do? apply or leave it? [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OGNL-239
Regards -- Łukasz + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ 2013/11/14 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>: > On 14 Nov 2013, at 10:01, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > >> Le 10/11/2013 21:46, Christian Grobmeier a écrit : >> >>> From all the log4j talks I gave recently there were zero people using >>> commons-logging. For me it is dead. >> >> >> For what it's worth, the install base of commons-logging in Debian is >> ten times the one of slf4j, and there is no sign of it declining: > > > Not sure how debian users install that package and why. Maybe its indirectly > referenced by some widley used software package. I don't know. > That statistics doesn't count much to me. > > Of course my experiences cannot be generalized too. They are subjective. But > if you > ask your audience who is using what and nobody uses commons-logging it makes > you think. > This has happened at multiple talks reaching a total of around 1500 persons. > > >> We'll soon have an opportunity to improve commons-logging while >> preserving backward compatibility thanks to the default methods in Java 8. > > > Preserving backwards compatibility? Till when? 2020? Too much backwards > compatibility > broke Commons. While other projects are not doing enough for bc, we are > doing too much. > > Java 8 is in future. In the meantime other logging frameworks will go on. > > I have seen people are annoyed of the back and forth of logging. Commons > Logging ads just some spice > to the problems of logging, but not a real solution. I have had some hard > fights with promoting > Log4j2. I am not going to put any effort to fix commons-logging as I don't > see the value. > > Instead, I am going to spent my time to Log4j 2 and I am really surprised to > hear > that some Commons folks prefer to make commons-logging looking modern > instead of contributing > to Log4j2 which also provides a modern API. > > Anyway, its up to you folks. Have fun! > > Cheers > > >> >> Emmanuel Bourg >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > --- > http://www.grobmeier.de > @grobmeier > GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
