I love the idea.  I also think commons will get a lot more eye balls if it gets 
all the repositories on github and enables the watch button as well as github 
issues.

Cheers,
Ole

On 01/13/2016 07:24 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
I like having [math] in Commons. There are other multi-module projects in
Commons, that's not an issue IMO, just good project design.

My main worry is more on the overall health of Commons or perception that
[math] is "leaving" Commons, the more eyeballs on Commons the better.

Gary

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would like to propose that we split [math] out into a top level
project at the ASF.  This has been proposed before, and I have
always come down on the side of staying in Commons, but I am now
convinced that it is a good step for us to take for the following
reasons:

0) We have several committers who are really only interested in
[math], so being on the Commons PMC does not really make sense for them
1) The code base has swollen in size to well beyond the "small sharp
tools" that make up the bulk of Commons
2) We are probably at the point where we should consider splitting
[math] itself into separately released subcomponents (could be done
in Commons, but starts smelling a little Jakarta-ish when Commons
has components with subcomponents).

The downsides are
a) [newPMC] loses Commons eyeballs / contributors who would not find
us otherwise
b) Migration / repackaging pain
c) Overhead of starting and managing a PMC
d) Other Commons components lose some eyeballs

Personally, I think the benefits outweigh the downsides at this
point.  New better tools and ASF processes have made b) and c) a
little less onerous.  I don't think d) is really a big problem for
Commons, as those of us who work on other stuff here could continue
to do so.  It is possible that a) actually works in the reverse
direction - i.e., we are easier to find as a TLP.

What do others think about this?

Phil


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