On 1/25/16 6:05 AM, Gilles wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 13:54:51 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>> Please respond to this thread if you are a Commons Committer
>> interested in joining the PMC for the new TLP based on [math].
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Phil
>
> I'm interested in as much as I'm being curious to see if it
> will change anything! :-}

Does this mean you are volunteering for the PMC? 

Phil
>
> There were a few "negative" arguments, that is was better to
> stop "annoying" the other Commons projects. [To which some
> responded that they'd prefer the status quo.]
>
> The rationale concerning the size, scope, and management of
> Commons Math, (and how different it was from all the other
> Commons components), I had brought up on several occasions in
> the past.
>
> What has changed?
>
> What are the "positive" arguments?
>
> To be crystal-clear, if the new PMC is composed of the same
> people who are the regular contributors to the Commons Math
> project, i.e. with the same confronting blocks, I don't see
> from where the incentive towards a different development policy
> will come.
>
> Various points have been brought up in (too often heated)
> discussions (JDK version, development and release policies
> such as compatibility, refactoring, multi-threading, exception
> handling, etc.).
>
> I think that the volunteers for the new PMC should list their
> opinion on fundamental issues that obviously define a "vision"
> of the project.
>
> Lacking clear goals[1] is not going to help in any way.
> At this point, we can expect administrative chores.
> Wouldn't it be a pity to do all that work just to get a new
> name?
>
>
> Regards,
> Gilles
>
> [1] There can be seemingly contradictory goals as long as they
>     are acknowledged and do not hamper each other (like I've
>     expressed in other posts) and sufficient resources exist to
>     handle them.
>
>
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