On May 25, 2016 9:13 AM, "Stian Soiland-Reyes" <st...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Agree, we should try to avoid including test-data that requires
> attribution - users of Commons CSV will then seemingly have to
> propagate the NOTICE when the data is not used at runtime.
>
> Is there a reason why we can't create equivalent test-CSV files (use
> the same syntax and escapes), or is the whole point that the tests
> must be able to use CSV files in the wild "as-is"? As the original
> URLs have gone 404 we can't just use rely on them either (in addition
> to the fact that the build would then require Internet access).
>
>
> Let's see if we get a reply this time :)
>
> If not then I think we will simply need to remove the ferc.gov test
> files and the derived test class.

Already done. See the RC2 VOTE please.

I can help re-create an equivalent
> file - copyright only exists if the content can be considered Work as
> an intellectual creation - and a few "," without the original text
> will usually not meet that criteria.

Please my other email why its a nice thing to have.

Gary
>
> (You could argue that even in this test data is not considered a Work
> - but it could be consider a Database Design under EU Intellectual
> Proeprty rights - so just the particular column name combination must
> be changed)
>
>
>
> On 25 May 2016 at 11:15, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 25 May 2016 at 00:13, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 3:29 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 24 May 2016 at 23:14, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Ok, so maybe I just exclude these files from the release and add
some
> >>> > Assume calls in the tests. I can do that...
> >>>
> >>> As I wrote, the Unit test clearly contains data extracted from the
> >>> FERC CSV files.
> >>> So the entire class needs to be dropped.
> >>>
> >>> Note:  there is a lot of potential CSV test data on the gov.uk
website.
> >>> I raised LEGAL-255 about the licence.
> >>>
> >>
> >> This is promising:
> >>
> >>
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/house-price-index-background-tables
> >
> > This page requests attribution, unlike the page I noted in the JIRA
initially.
> > So I think it should be avoided.
> >
> >> {quote}
> >> Publishing or making use of our data
> >> You will need to add the following attribution statement if you use or
> >> publish our House Price index background tables:
> >>
> >> Data produced by Land Registry © Crown copyright 2016.
> >> If you publish the data you should include information regarding the
nature
> >> of the data and any relevant dates for the period of time covered.
> >> An example is set out below:
> >>
> >> This data covers the transactions received at Land Registry in the
period
> >> [first working day of the month] to [last working day of the month]. ©
> >> Crown copyright 2016.
> >> Open Government Licence
> >> The data published on this page is available for use and reuse under
the
> >> Open Government Licence (OGL). This licence is for public bodies to
make
> >> their data available for reuse.
> >> {quote}
> >
> >> Gary
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> There are probably CSV files on other government websites around the
world.
> >>>
> >>> > On May 24, 2016 3:04 PM, "sebb" <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> On 24 May 2016 at 22:53, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>> >> > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:46 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> On 24 May 2016 at 22:09, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> >> > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Gary Gregory <
> >>> garydgreg...@gmail.com
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> > wrote:
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> I just added a little more "docs" in revision 1745267.
Awaiting
> >>> >> >> feedback.
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> The commit is a comment in the POM in the RAT excludes section.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> I don't see how that relates to the FERC license discussion.
> >>> >> >> Since they are test data files one would expect them to be
exempt
> >>> from
> >>> >> >> RAT anyway.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> > Any thoughts? No need to start another RC until this is
squared
> >>> away.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> If we cannot establish what the license is then we don't know
whether
> >>> >> >> they are even AL compatible, let alone what attribution if any
is
> >>> >> >> required.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Do we really need the files?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> What benefit do they provide?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > These files show that we are testing against real world data, as
> >>> opposed
> >>> >> to
> >>> >> > using our own CSVPrinter to create test data or cobbling up
tests by
> >>> >> hand.
> >>> >> > Using our own CSVPrinter would provide that we can parse what we
can
> >>> >> print,
> >>> >> > a useful test but this does not show "real" data. Hand-created
test
> >>> files
> >>> >> > may have a subjective bias as to the range of features tested.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > At least it is a sanity check, and for more, using real world
data may
> >>> >> also
> >>> >> > end up letting us find bugs, edge cases and discover the need
for new
> >>> >> > features.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Then if we want to keep them, we need to establish what the
license is.
> >>> >> Or find some other CSV files that have a suitable license.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Note that the FercGovTest.java file contains details which appear
to
> >>> >> be extracted from the test files.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> If we want to release CSV in the near future, I suggest we remove
the
> >>> >> data files and the test case for now.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Meanwhile someone can try again to contact FERC. I note that there
is
> >>> >> a phone number, so perhaps there is someone in the US who can
progress
> >>> >> this.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The relevant page is at:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> http://www.ferc.gov/docs-filing/eqr/xml.asp
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I also note that there are two e-mail addresses on the page.
> >>> >> They are different from the one mentioned in the JIRA from which
there
> >>> >> was no response, so might be worth trying.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > Gary
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> > Gary
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Gary
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Gary Gregory <
> >>> >> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> >>> >> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> Hi All:
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> These files were discussed here:
> >>> >> >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-175
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> I never got a reply IIRC from FERC, see the above link for
my
> >>> email.
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> So we decided to ship the files in the configuration as they
> >>> still
> >>> >> are
> >>> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> >>> 1.4-RC1.
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> I looks like we want to do it differently now, so:
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> - I removed the entries from the NOTICE file.
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> - I added a comment in the POM RAT excludes section.
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> FWIW: Here are the current FERC examples:
> >>> >> >> >>> http://www.ferc.gov/docs-filing/eqr/xml.asp but still no
> >>> license or
> >>> >> >> >>> copyright on the files.
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> In the future (>1.4), I'd like to use these files and keep
> >>> >> gathering a
> >>> >> >> >>> pile of IRL examples.
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> Is the state of trunk (now at revision 1745238) OK for an
RC2?
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> Gary
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:14 AM, Benedikt Ritter <
> >>> >> brit...@apache.org>
> >>> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> Hi,
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> Moving this away from the vote thread...
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> I'm pretty sure we've already discussed the problem with
the
> >>> >> ferc.gov
> >>> >> >> >>>> file
> >>> >> >> >>>> but I can't find a reference in the archives. Can anybody
help?
> >>> >> >> >>>> I agree with Stian, that we should better document this.
> >>> >> >> >>>> I'm not sure whether this is a blocker, since 1.3 has been
> >>> >> released in
> >>> >> >> >>>> the
> >>> >> >> >>>> same state wrt NOTICE.txt.
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> Regards,
> >>> >> >> >>>> Benedikt
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> >>> >> >> >>>> From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
> >>> >> >> >>>> Date: Mo., 23. Mai 2016 um 15:59 Uhr
> >>> >> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Commons CSV 1.4 RC1
> >>> >> >> >>>> To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> On 23 May 2016 at 06:53, Gary Gregory <
garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>>> > Apache Commons CSV 1.4 RC1 is available for review here:
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/csv/1.4-RC1/
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (revision 13733)
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> I assume you mean
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/csv/CSV_1_4_RC1/
> >>> >> >> >>>> (@13733)
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> My vote: -1  due to NOTICE issues.
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> Checked:
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> +1 Signatures
> >>> >> >> >>>> +1 Hashes
> >>> >> >> >>>> +1 mvn clean install
> >>> >> >> >>>> +1 mvn apache-rat:check
> >>> >> >> >>>> -1 NOTICE is outdated, and material copyright
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> Notice includes:
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/main/resources/contract.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> This file was downloaded from
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> http://www.ferc.gov/docs-filing/eqr/soft-tools/sample-csv/contract.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> and contains neither copyright notice nor license.
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/main/resources/transaction.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> This file was downloaded from
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
http://www.ferc.gov/docs-filing/eqr/soft-tools/sample-csv/transaction.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> and contains neither copyright notice nor license.
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> (I don't care that the URLs are 404)
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> however these files are now in
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> ./src/test/resources/ferc.gov/
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> We can't include files that "contain neither copyright
notice
> >>> nor
> >>> >> >> >>>> license" - that means regular copyright remains and we
don't
> >>> have
> >>> >> >> >>>> permission to use it.
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> As a US government organization, ferc.gov SHOULD be
publishing
> >>> >> under
> >>> >> >> >>>> Public Domain - but we can't include their work if that
has not
> >>> >> been
> >>> >> >> >>>> expressed.
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> Note that I have not searched the email archive or Jira in
case
> >>> >> the IP
> >>> >> >> >>>> of these files have already been cleared.
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> This bit of the NOTICE should be removed as it is not a
required
> >>> >> >> >>>> attribution notice. Move it to a comment in the apache-rat
> >>> exclude
> >>> >> in
> >>> >> >> >>>> the pom.xml
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/bom.csv
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/test.csv
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/test_default.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/test_default_comment.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/test_rfc4180.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/test_rfc4180_trim.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/testCSV85.csv
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/testCSV85_default.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> src/test/resources/CSVFileParser/testCSV85_ignoreEmpty.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> These files are used as test data and test result
> >>> specifications.
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> Checked using Ubuntu 16:04 x/64:
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> Apache Maven 3.3.9
(bb52d8502b132ec0a5a3f4c09453c07478323dc5;
> >>> >> >> >>>> 2015-11-10T16:41:47+00:00)
> >>> >> >> >>>> Maven home: /home/stain/software/maven
> >>> >> >> >>>> Java version: 1.8.0_91, vendor: Oracle Corporation
> >>> >> >> >>>> Java home: /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre
> >>> >> >> >>>> Default locale: en_GB, platform encoding: UTF-8
> >>> >> >> >>>> OS name: "linux", version: "4.4.0-22-generic", arch:
"amd64",
> >>> >> family:
> >>> >> >> >>>> "unix"
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-bin.tar.gz
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (SHA1: 19806d3a6b2f8c6569f50b294da1d3f3a5be4429)
> >>> >> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-bin.zip
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (SHA1: f551f471081c75a4cb6710b9981a3e0c858debd3)
> >>> >> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-src.tar.gz
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (SHA1: 08151857d96af4c95ddbd5131f40e56b05eb088f)
> >>> >> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-src.zip
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (SHA1: c379ec116117e0a9bbd66f7bb3279cfe1e9697ef)
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   Maven artifacts are here:
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1172/org/apache/commons/commons-csv/1.4/
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> > These are the artifacts and their hashes:
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-test-sources.jar
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (SHA1: fa468674f62177f6182a318f4d1bb7b385e146b6)
> >>> >> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-sources.jar
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (SHA1: f8e3c6b3d3c1a5bbd80ad5b73c72a98af471c401)
> >>> >> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4.pom
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (SHA1: c065422ac0fd4ff25016fb2fcb00af3874103935)
> >>> >> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4.jar
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (SHA1: 5221b8e5d24f26aab600d367313c6620c7f1fdb6)
> >>> >> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-javadoc.jar
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (SHA1: 878a92f52149c3d3050332fbfb9702ed3a64c515)
> >>> >> >> >>>> > commons-csv-1.4-tests.jar
> >>> >> >> >>>> > (SHA1: 2eb791225c8f002be1fa0f4b6d68110e63b14f5a)
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   Details of changes since 1.3 are in the release notes:
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/csv/CSV_1_4_RC1/RELEASE-NOTES.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >>
http://home.apache.org/~ggregory/csv-1.4-rc1/site/changes-report.html
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   The tag is here:
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >>
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/csv/tags/csv-1.4-RC1/
> >>> >> >> >>>> >     (revision 1745108)
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   Site:
> >>> >> >> >>>> >     http://home.apache.org/~ggregory/csv-1.4-rc1/site/
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >    (some *relative* links are broken - these will be OK
once
> >>> the
> >>> >> >> site
> >>> >> >> >>>> > is deployed)
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   Clirr Report (compared to 1.3):
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> http://home.apache.org/~ggregory/csv-1.4-rc1/site/clirr-report.html
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   RAT Report:
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >>
http://home.apache.org/~ggregory/csv-1.4-rc1/site/rat-report.html
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   KEYS:
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   https://www.apache.org/dist/commons/KEYS
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   Please review the release candidate and vote.
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   This vote will close no sooner than 72 hours from now,
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   i.e. sometime after 23:00 PST 25 May 2016
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   [ ] +0 OK, but...
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   Thanks!
> >>> >> >> >>>> >   Gary Gregory
> >>> >> >> >>>> >
> >>> >> >> >>>> > --
> >>> >> >> >>>> > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org
> >>> >> >> >>>> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >>> >> >> >>>> > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> >>> >> >> >>>> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <
> >>> >> http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
> >>> >> >> >>>> > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> >>> >> >> >>>> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> >>> >> >> >>>> > Home: http://garygregory.com/
> >>> >> >> >>>> > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> --
> >>> >> >> >>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> >>> >> >> >>>> Apache Commons, Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache
Commons RDF
> >>> >> >> >>>> (incubating)
> >>> >> >> >>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
> >>> >> >> >>>> ./src/test/resources/ferc.gov/contract.txt
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >>
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> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> --
> >>> >> >> >>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org
> >>> >> >> >>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >>> >> >> >>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> >>> >> >> >>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <
> >>> http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
> >>> >> >> >>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> >>> >> >> >>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> >>> >> >> >>> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> >>> >> >> >>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org
> >>> >> >> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >>> >> >> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> >>> >> >> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <
http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/
> >>> >
> >>> >> >> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> >>> >> >> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> >>> >> >> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> >>> >> >> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > --
> >>> >> >> > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org
> >>> >> >> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >>> >> >> > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> >>> >> >> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <
http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
> >>> >> >> > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> >>> >> >> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> >>> >> >> > Home: http://garygregory.com/
> >>> >> >> > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> > --
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> >>> >> > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >>> >> > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> >>> >> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/
>
> >>> >> > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> >>> >> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
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> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
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