On Fri, 4 Jan 2019, 5:25 pm Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org wrote:

> hi.
>
Hi Gilles,

>
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 22:04:24 +0530, Amey Jadiye wrote:
> > Hello Maxim / All
> >
> > I put little more efforts to find out the possible cause of the
> > error.
> > In the clirr code, I found the reason for this error and same is
> > documented
> > in clirr documentation [1].
> >
> > A method declaration has been added to the specified interface. This
> > is
> > always reported as a binary-compatibility error, but in practice, the
> > changed class might be used successfully with code compiled against
> > the old
> > interface depending upon usage patterns.
> >
> > Old code which invokes methods upon code compiled against the new
> > (expanded) interface will continue to work without issues. And old
> > code
> > which implements the old version of the interface will also continue
> > to
> > work correctly as long as no code attempts to invoke any of the
> > newly-added
> > methods against that instance. But the code which (validly) invokes
> > one of
> > the new methods in the interface against an object which implements
> > only
> > the old version of the interface will cause an AbstractMethodError to
> > be
> > thrown at the time the method invocation is attempted.
>
> IIUC, new code that calls the new methods on [Collections] classes
> will crash.  Does not look good.
> On the other hand, Maxim wrote earlier that a method reported by
> Clirr as "new" (cf. below) was in fact present since Java 6...
>
> Are we then sure that it's a Clirr bug?
> If so, why did you not vote "+1" (on the condition that the false
> positive is mentioned in the release notes)?
>
> We could also make some definite progress with an actual code
> example that calls the incriminated methods, compiled against the
> current version of the library and then run against the current RC,
> and see whether it crashes.
>

Thanks for directions here, I must also check that. Till then I would like
to change my vote to -1 (Non Binding) for this release.


> Alternatively, we could instate "revapi" in the POM (and disable
> Clirr); and if the report is clean, trust that (though "revapi" is
> still beta).
>
> Opinions?
>
> Gilles
>
> >
> > In 4.2 and 4.3 looks like we have upgraded the java version[2] where
> > for
> > example for Map interface might have added a few more methods causing
> > these
> > errors.
> >
> > For this release, I am voting 0 (Non-Binding) as there is unharmed
> > mess
> > around the clirr.
> >
> > rest of the things are OK with this release, I would encourage to
> > have
> > revapi replacing clirr.
> >
> >
> > [1]  http://clirr.sourceforge.net/clirr-core/exegesis.html
> > [2]
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/commons-collections/commit/482762a13f739631f94d03642b0a55a9b7214c44
> >
> > Regards,
> > Amey
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 11:53 AM Amey Jadiye <ameyjad...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I spared little time on finding issue however didn't found it in
> >> clirr(may
> >> be hidden somewhere),  today will check if clirr maven plugin have
> >> any
> >> issues. also I saw that few other apache commons modules having same
> >> issue
> >> and are released.
> >>
> >> I also gave try on revapi with commons collection4 4.3RC2.
> >> revapi:check
> >> was clean unlike clirr, looks promising to replace clirr.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Amey
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2 Jan 2019, 12:31 pm Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>> Just checked clirr report one more time
> >>> This time I took 1 error and perform investigation:
> >>>
> >>> "Method 'public java.util.Collection values()' has been added to an
> >>> interface" org.apache.commons.collections4.BidiMap
> >>>
> >>> In fact I don't understand why this error was reported
> >>> BidiMap extends java.util.Map
> >>> Map has method "public java.util.Collection values()" in all
> >>> versions:
> >>> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/Map.html
> >>> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/Map.html
> >>> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/util/Map.html
> >>>
> >>> Maybe its clirr issue?
> >>> Would appreciate any help with this investigation
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 16:53, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:41:40 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> >>> > > Hello Gilles,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I already did analysis: [1], all errors are caused by previous
> >>> > > release
> >>> > > 4.3 doesn't introduce any new errors ...
> >>> > >
> >>> > > [1] https://markmail.org/message/l7ftxlvdk4yqxijt
> >>> >
> >>> > I had seen the post but it says:
> >>> > ---
> >>> > these errors are weird. Above classes has no changes comparing to
> >>> 4.2
> >>> > ---
> >>> >
> >>> > But IMHO it was not a conclusion: If the cause of the errors was
> >>> > identified, it could have been mentioned in the release notes
> >>> > and/or the [VOTE] email, in order to avoid further questioning.
> >>> >
> >>> > Is the cause the change of supported JDK?
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > Gilles
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 07:26, Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com>
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I’ll give it a look tonight or in the morning.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> -Rob
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > On Dec 30, 2018, at 12:25 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
> >>> > >> <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > No votes after 3 days :(
> >>> > >> > Is there anything wrong with the RC?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 at 05:20, Bruno P. Kinoshita
> >>> > >> <ki...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >> FWIW I had a similar experience, and realized I was doing
> >>> `git
> >>> > >> fetch --all`, but it didn't bring the tags. `git fetch --tags`
> >>> did
> >>> the
> >>> > >> trick. After that I could `git checkout $tag-name`
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >> Cheers
> >>> > >> >> Bruno
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >> ________________________________
> >>> > >> >> From: Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
> >>> > >> >> To: dev@commons.apache.org
> >>> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2018 9:26 AM
> >>> > >> >> Subject: Re: [VOTE][RC2] Commons collections 4.3
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 21:21:34 +0100, Gilles wrote:
> >>> > >> >>> Hi.
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:41:59 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >> >>>> This is a [VOTE] for releasing
> >>> > >> >>>> Apache Commons collections 4.3
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> Tag name:
> >>> > >> >>>>    collections-4.3-RC2 (signature can be checked from git
> >>> using
> >>> > >> >>>> 'git
> >>> > >> >>>> tag -v')
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>> $ git tag -v collections-4.3-RC2
> >>> > >> >>> error: tag 'collections-4.3-RC2' not found.
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>> Although I see it in the link below...
> >>> > >> >>> What is going on?
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >> Issue vanished with a fresh "clone".
> >>> > >> >> [Sorry for the noise.]
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >>
> >>> > >> >>>> RC1 was cancelled due to some release steps were not done
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> Tag URL:
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=commons-collections.git;a=commit;h=77e37dbf238d26351edb29e95391e3df75095d01
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> Commit ID the tag points at:
> >>> > >> >>>>    77e37dbf238d26351edb29e95391e3df75095d01
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> Site:
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/collections/4.3-RC2/site/index.html
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>> The Clirr report is still a problem:
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/collections/4.3-RC2/site/clirr-report.html
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>> [The same errors are reported on my machine, so it's
> >>> > >> >>> not a cache issue...]
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>> Regards,
> >>> > >> >>> Gilles
> >>> > >> >>>
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> Distribution files (committed at revision 31689):
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/collections/
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> Distribution files hashes (SHA256):
> >>> > >> >>>>  commons-collections4-4.3-bin.tar.gz
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >>
> >>> 214c12fae27403f1a16ca6c108b5a8682be1a885a0dbbfc8eb30941303e1fe94
> >>> > >> >>>>  commons-collections4-4.3-bin.zip
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >>
> >>> 75b51a98fea6fca3746a3f70c6a0be24c99849e4976c4649214eaa5a009d0aeb
> >>> > >> >>>>  commons-collections4-4.3-src.tar.gz
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >>
> >>> 399f403feca86dbba7c4162eb90174db45979a2f7db2b3e0ba48240dc43ab434
> >>> > >> >>>>  commons-collections4-4.3-src.zip
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >>
> >>> 1c637e260b5b9e372d196593c7617ad3adedb6da3ac9196d086f9fc24401f5c3
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> KEYS file to check signatures:
> >>> > >> >>>>   https://www.apache.org/dist/commons/KEYS
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> Maven artifacts:
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1405/
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> Please select one of the following options:
> >>> > >> >>>>  [ ] +1 Release it.
> >>> > >> >>>>  [ ] +0 Go ahead; I don't care.
> >>> > >> >>>>  [ ] -0 There are a few minor glitches: ...
> >>> > >> >>>>  [ ] -1 No, do not release it because ...
> >>> > >> >>>>
> >>> > >> >>>> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours, i.e. until
> >>> > >> >>>> 2018-12-29T14:00:00Z
> >>> > >> >>>> (this is UTC time).
> >>> > >> >>>>
>
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