Thank you for your thoughtful explanation.

I'm 100% ok with calling the RC 1.0-alpha4 (alpha3 is was 2 years ago).
I'll re-roll the RC in the morning.

Gary

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024, 6:07 PM Bruno Kinoshita <brunodepau...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> The M name is something Maven uses a lot and (to me) suggests something
> > users might be more willing to try than anything labeled alpha or beta.
> > YMMV of course.
>
>
> Now that you mention it, I do remember installing some Maven versions that
> had the M in its version!
>
> From a compatibility POV, anything can happen until 1.0, so the only name
> > that matters is 1.0. We have no guidelines except what the world does at
> > large with alpha, beta, or milestone, plus I would not restrict
> outlrselves
> > saying we can't do this or that because we are in beta and not alpha
> > anymore. The basic goal IMO is to up the usage and make sure we have a
> nice
> > API for 1.0.
>
>
> I think users are already trying the -alpha release, and I think it'd be
> better to use alpha3:
>
> - Less surprise to users, as alpha1 -> alpha2 -> alpha3 is intuitive
> - Not all users may be familiar with M1, M2 (although that could be just
> me)
> - I searched milestone release maven, and found this SO as the very first
> hit
>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3687208/what-does-m1-mean-in-a-maven-repository
>
> >A milestone means that the application got a huge improvement from the
> todo list. A release candidate is a release that can be the final release
> unless some major bugs are found.
>
> I do not think we had a huge improvement, yet, as there are old issues from
> the first 1.0 vote that were not fixed yet, and other bugs reported by
> users of the alpha1/2 releases that would be nice to fix before it's ready
> to be released.
>
> I think what we have in Imaging right now matches more the alpha release
> described in ASF's release policy page
> https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-types,
>
> > Releases that only represent a project milestone and are intended only
> for bleeding-edge developers working outside the project are called
> "alpha".
>
> as I think Imaging's API still needs some trimming and may change in
> this/next releases, so more like a bleeding-edge, which should be clear to
> users getting an alpha3 release.
>
> From my point of view we do not really need to increase the number of users
> testing the releases, but work through the issues reported (mea culpa,
> sorry), and fix the 1.x issues. Once that's done, I think we could have an
> M1 release then, and promote it more to get more users before the 1.0 final
> (if needed, or straight to 1.0).
>
> Wouldn't you consider an alpha3 instead, to avoid any issues to users, and
> an M1 when we are closer to 1.0 (quite sure an alpha4 or M2 will be
> needed... maybe more...).
>
> Bruno
>
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 at 16:24, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bruno,
> >
> > The M name is something Maven uses a lot and (to me) suggests something
> > users might be more willing to try than anything labeled alpha or beta.
> > YMMV of course.
> >
> > From a compatibility POV, anything can happen until 1.0, so the only name
> > that matters is 1.0. We have no guidelines except what the world does at
> > large with alpha, beta, or milestone, plus I would not restrict
> outlrselves
> > saying we can't do this or that because we are in beta and not alpha
> > anymore. The basic goal IMO is to up the usage and make sure we have a
> nice
> > API for 1.0.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024, 10:49 AM Bruno Kinoshita <brunodepau...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Will try the branch and vote later this week.
> > >
> > > From another thread, I think M1 will behave exatcly like an alpha
> release
> > > would.
> > >
> > > I am more used to alpha/beta/then final release process.
> > >
> > > Could you clarify how the M1 will distinguish from an alpha or 1.0
> > release?
> > >
> > > Tha ks for preparing the release!
> > >
> > > Bruno
> > >
> > > On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, 14:17 Gary Gregory, <ggreg...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We have fixed a few bugs and added some enhancements since Apache
> > > > Commons Imaging 1.0-alpha3 was released, so I would like to release
> > > > Apache Commons Imaging 1.0.0-M1.
> > > >
> > > > Apache Commons Imaging 1.0.0-M1 RC1 is available for review here:
> > > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1
> > > > (svn revision 68122)
> > > >
> > > > The Git tag commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1 commit for this RC is
> > > > 53565f604393f5f3e09b87be020567d201905a44 which you can browse here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=commons-imaging.git;a=commit;h=53565f604393f5f3e09b87be020567d201905a44
> > > > You may checkout this tag using:
> > > >     git clone
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/commons-imaging.git
> > > > --branch <
> > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/commons-imaging.git--branch>
> > > > commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1 commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1
> > > >
> > > > Maven artifacts are here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecommons-1707/org/apache/commons/commons-imaging/1.0.0-M1/
> > > >
> > > > These are the artifacts and their hashes:
> > > >
> > > > #Release SHA-512s
> > > > #Mon Mar 25 12:37:27 UTC 2024
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> org.apache.commons_commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1.spdx.json=87c9326b12ddb92d53483141f825fad966c432405120f1296f70a6dba54f7ca87f80af26ce209bcca8bdd89b4e93ac464cd8546d19919858504d6a20d2f211cc
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-sources.jar=5e0d15188af8b7278766d8efe2d3fa08809f782f7db580dd8115bcd8dd66de0534599722050c03d0e8347980b398c68f2eea938021a30d8d44b751c5175fdfb8
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-bom.json=12a3e4c949580680b8bed4be2a5836cf2ed4d0235516b94b8d566c574176429ba7297a253f990f7515040b2ed978389eecc762f5166f6827619bb5494da0f625
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-src.zip=f4bf0919f2708eda8ab24cf92637dbf5e7ff443741911add2c7375c1161d798244ff1ef7bea47bdfddb9b1e2b8f65b5a212679729c4e22f9aad8815a1ebe2f0b
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-test-sources.jar=96ea44d7b42c9dd01e3250d4854506fde6876ff76e8a55a2e76e5df9d0a24bb7302d4288c05e284c3d122ebc61fb0ddd34741b97f60fec86b9141019c10c449b
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-bin.tar.gz=1f7618ef5dfc7a6841aafb79f901d0c2010fa066ffccb5a4ff4c3e3083c0214bb4e998878ef3ca44c27a8df4a4e39888b7606e8c1f6d522c3029ccf4a9ec626e
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-bom.xml=027ef7700828133cf25d8f0ac01dffe2266c8a635cde7bbfaa421faf84af0f0adb4389e48b62b3955105fb99befd0a62e31b0ecdddfeb611b0662612eb9dc6fa
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-src.tar.gz=f0f1c814993883c2913d258d50eb83877ea65f961e2a8aec06de1877e394de34eafdeed0f39ee67bd710da5e4efc8e8adb1d52e87ecb100c74a1343fa1fe09bc
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-tests.jar=f07ddff5273d32299261e51673f0a1030075ff72293f22087cc732e227b762c83dbad2cd59ed47c7409528bb9fe1fd4833a13e45163a357244487b002700dc8b
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-javadoc.jar=91b5998ff11bcd76af6346ea37f8fbb14c6390b02b48e9e4ee7b4e6c31b8b7344227e7c2fea6894cd866a3330a0c30a57ff1007a61549e07642312e3d2f2ae6f
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-bin.zip=bf431713086e2fc61a9eb52eed1fd9043ca6c36601c81c3f775c110795e0d9dbdca09a768785ce4137cc9b822f9a736a50c2b8758ec58a2caa14695f68538784
> > > >
> > > > I have tested this with 'mvn' and 'mvn -V -Prelease -Ptest-deploy -P
> > > > jacoco -P japicmp clean package site deploy' using:
> > > >
> > > > openjdk version "17.0.10" 2024-01-16
> > > > OpenJDK Runtime Environment Homebrew (build 17.0.10+0)
> > > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Homebrew (build 17.0.10+0, mixed mode,
> > sharing)
> > > >
> > > > Apache Maven 3.9.6 (bc0240f3c744dd6b6ec2920b3cd08dcc295161ae)
> > > > Maven home: /usr/local/Cellar/maven/3.9.6/libexec
> > > > Java version: 17.0.10, vendor: Homebrew, runtime:
> > > > /usr/local/Cellar/openjdk@17
> /17.0.10/libexec/openjdk.jdk/Contents/Home
> > > > Default locale: en_US, platform encoding: UTF-8
> > > > OS name: "mac os x", version: "14.3.1", arch: "x86_64", family: "mac"
> > > >
> > > > Darwin **** 23.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 23.3.0: Wed Dec 20 21:28:58
> > > > PST 2023; root:xnu-10002.81.5~7/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
> > > >
> > > > Details of changes since 1.0-alpha3 are in the release notes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1/RELEASE-NOTES.txt
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1/site/changes-report.html
> > > >
> > > > This release does not preserve binary compatibility with previous
> alpha
> > > > releaes.
> > > >
> > > > Site:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1/site/index.html
> > > >     (note some *relative* links are broken and the 1.0.0-M1
> > > > directories are not yet created - these will be OK once the site is
> > > > deployed.)
> > > >
> > > > RAT Report:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1/site/rat-report.html
> > > >
> > > > KEYS:
> > > >   https://downloads.apache.org/commons/KEYS
> > > >
> > > > Please review the release candidate and vote.
> > > > This vote will close no sooner than 72 hours from now.
> > > >
> > > >   [ ] +1 Release these artifacts
> > > >   [ ] +0 OK, but...
> > > >   [ ] -0 OK, but really should fix...
> > > >   [ ] -1 I oppose this release because...
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > Gary Gregory,
> > > > Release Manager (using key 86fdc7e2a11262cb)
> > > >
> > > > For following is intended as a helper and refresher for reviewers.
> > > >
> > > > Validating a release candidate
> > > > ==============================
> > > >
> > > > These guidelines are NOT complete.
> > > >
> > > > Requirements: Git, Java, Maven.
> > > >
> > > > You can validate a release from a release candidate (RC) tag as
> > follows.
> > > >
> > > > 1a) Clone and checkout the RC tag
> > > >
> > > > git clone https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/commons-imaging.git
> > > > --branch <
> > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/commons-imaging.git--branch>
> > > > commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1 commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1
> > > > cd commons-imaging-1.0.0-M1-RC1
> > > >
> > > > 1b) Download and unpack the source archive from:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/imaging/1.0.0-M1-RC1/source
> > > >
> > > > 2) Check Apache licenses
> > > >
> > > > This step is not required if the site includes a RAT report page
> which
> > > > you then must check.
> > > >
> > > > mvn apache-rat:check
> > > >
> > > > 3) Check binary compatibility
> > > >
> > > > Older components still use Apache Clirr:
> > > >
> > > > This step is not required if the site includes a Clirr report page
> > > > which you then must check.
> > > >
> > > > mvn clirr:check
> > > >
> > > > Newer components use JApiCmp with the japicmp Maven Profile:
> > > >
> > > > This step is not required if the site includes a JApiCmp report page
> > > > which you then must check.
> > > >
> > > > mvn install -DskipTests -P japicmp japicmp:cmp
> > > >
> > > > 4) Build the package
> > > >
> > > > mvn -V clean package
> > > >
> > > > You can record the Maven and Java version produced by -V in your VOTE
> > > > reply.
> > > > To gather OS information from a command line:
> > > > Windows: ver
> > > > Linux: uname -a
> > > >
> > > > 5) Build the site for a single module project
> > > >
> > > > Note: Some plugins require the components to be installed instead of
> > > > packaged.
> > > >
> > > > mvn site
> > > > Check the site reports in:
> > > > - Windows: target\site\index.html
> > > > - Linux: target/site/index.html
> > > >
> > > > Note that the project reports are created for each module.
> > > > Modules can be accessed using the 'Project Modules' link under
> > > > the 'Project Information' menu (see <path-to-site>/modules.html).
> > > >
> > > > -the end-
> > > >
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