On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 11:56 AM Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > the vine IMO due to all of of the hoops and requests it makes on
> > > contributions.
> >
> > Log4Shell

I have. I was directly involved in the response to that clusterfuck at
probably the largest Java shop on the planet. And having been through
that, and multiple other emergency security response efforts caused by
holes in open source software deep in the stack, I am astonished that
people still think it's OK to build and build on top of projects where
all that's needed to compromise the global infrastructure is to buy or
steal the GitHub account of one unpaid hobbyist.

No, this is not the only way systems are compromised, but it
absolutely is one way, and one that's easy to protect against. Not
doing that is profesional misfeasance.

-- 
Elliotte Rusty Harold
[email protected]

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