Am 10.05.26 um 13:17 schrieb Gary Gregory:
On Sun, May 10, 2026, 06:51 Elliotte Rusty Harold <[email protected]>
wrote:

On Sun, May 10, 2026 at 12:36 AM Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hello Jo,

I don't think anything like this should be added to Lang. That part of
the
library is a mini-framework that apps can use to suit their needs. We
should not start accumulating more implementations than we already have.


Makes sense. Can you close the issue as won't fix then?

Closed.

I was preparing an answer that explores possible consensus based on experiments, code analysis, and improving understanding, but I see I was wasting my time as there was a predefined consensus already.

Since

1) RecursiveToStringStyle might have worked but fails for unrelated reasons (try using it with a java.nio.Path instance in a Java that enforces module boundaries for hilarious results: it tries to pick up a static field which is nonsensical *and* deep dives into JDK internals because it ignores the existence of the explicit UnixPath#toString() implementation),
2) MULTI_LINE_STRING_STYLE just creates unreadable output (see below), and
3) the commons-lang project seems to default to fending off suggestions rather than exploring them (which I find understandable but still frustrating),

I'm off to explore alternatives such as YAML output.
It's grossly overengineered for the task but at least I see a way forward.

-Jo

Here's what MULTI_LINE_STYLE will give me for small configuration data:

> org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.MainConfig@2ef9b8bc[
>   buildDir=websites.out
>   websites=[org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.WebsiteConfig@5315b42e[
>   srcDir=websites.in
> serverConfig=org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.ServerConfig@77b52d12[
>   host=www382.your-server.de
>   username=XXX
>   privateSshKey=/home/jo/.ssh/id_rsa
>   password=
> ]
>   destDir=public_html
> directories={websites.in=org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.DirectoryConfig@2096442d[
>   isWebroot=false
>   css=
>   favicon=
>   logo=
>   fsEntries=[]
> ], websites.in/durchholz.org=org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.DirectoryConfig@234bef66[
>   isWebroot=true
>   css=websites.in/durchholz.org/css
>   favicon=websites.in/durchholz.org/favicon
>   logo=websites.in/durchholz.org/jd-glyph-outlined.png
>   fsEntries=[]
> ], websites.in/durchholz.org/essays=org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.DirectoryConfig@61dc03ce[
>   isWebroot=false
>   css=
>   favicon=
>   logo=
>   fsEntries=[org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.FsEntry@50f8360d[
>   FsName=websites.in/durchholz.org/essays/handmade-passwords.adoc
>   title=Onepager (en)
>   processor=
> ], org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.FsEntry@2cb4c3ab[
>   FsName=websites.in/durchholz.org/essays/design-by-contract.adoc
>   title=Onepager (en)
>   processor=
> ]]
> ], websites.in/durchholz.org/favicons=org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.DirectoryConfig@13c78c0b[
>   isWebroot=false
>   css=
>   favicon=
>   logo=
>   fsEntries=[]
> ], websites.in/durchholz.org/hiring=org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.DirectoryConfig@12843fce[
>   isWebroot=false
>   css=
>   favicon=
>   logo=
>   fsEntries=[org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.FsEntry@3dd3bcd[
>   FsName=websites.in/durchholz.org/hiring/Joachim Durchholz - CV.de.odt
>   title=CV (de)
>   processor=
> ], org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.FsEntry@337d0578[
> FsName=websites.in/durchholz.org/hiring/Joachim Durchholz - Troubleshooter Role.en.adoc
>   title=Onepager (en)
>   processor=
> ]]
> ], websites.in/toolforger.org=org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.DirectoryConfig@59e84876[
>   isWebroot=true
>   css=websites.in/toolforger.org/css
>   favicon=websites.in/toolforger.org/favicon
>   logo=
>   fsEntries=[]
> ], websites.in/toolforger.org.old=org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.DirectoryConfig@61a485d2[
>   isWebroot=false
>   css=
>   favicon=
>   logo=
>   fsEntries=[]
> ], websites.in/toolforger.org.old/website=org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.DirectoryConfig@39fb3ab6[
>   isWebroot=false
>   css=
>   favicon=
>   logo=
>   fsEntries=[]
> ], websites.in/toolforger.org/favicon=org.toolforger.websitebuilder.config.DirectoryConfig@7946e1f4[
>   isWebroot=false
>   css=
>   favicon=
>   logo=
>   fsEntries=[]
> ]}
> ]]
> ]

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