I've not gotten into the code as I am not a SME but as long as the _goal_ of the component are clearly defined, I think other Commons and Apache developers can come in and out as they see fit.
So long as there is movement and discussions on where to go next, I would support that. Gary On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Benedikt Ritter <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Sergio, > > Sergio Fernández <[email protected]> schrieb am Fr., 27. Mai 2016 um > 11:44 Uhr: > > > Hi all, > > > > once we got over the 0.2.0-incubating milestone, I think it's time to > > meditate what's the future of Commons RDF... > > > > FMPOV it's clear that we're far away from where we wanted to be when we > > started this journey of incubation. Many reasons to explain why: the > > incubation overhead, the discussions, the different personal/professional > > priorities, key people withdraws, etc. Which in the end is all normal. > > > > Let me first express some of my observations and feelings regarding the > development of Commons RDF. > > I've always only been kind of a spectator in this project. I see Apache > Commons as a platform for other projects to come together and share code. > This is why I wanted Commons RDF to become part of Apache Commons from the > beginning. However I always had the problem that RDF felt like a very > special topic to me. At my company I built enterprise applications and I > never had a use case for Commons RDF. I think this was a problem from the > very beginning. People just don't know RDF and that's why this project > never built a wider community. > > I have thought a lot whether it was a good move to force Commons RDF to go > through the incubator. We had a hand full of Apache people on board as well > as people who know other open communities. The incubator feels like a too > heavy burden for a small project that has the Apache way and IP already > figured out. This is why we accepted Commons Crypto directly into Commons > instead of forcing them to go through the incubator. My feeling is that > Commons Crypto benefited from the adoption by Apache Commons. So who knows, > maybe Commons RDF would have a much bigger community by now if it had not > to go through the incubator. > > Some words about the (small) community: I realized that there where heavy > discrepancies among community members, but I could not take party in the > arguments because I simply don't know RDF. It's sad that we could not find > a common ground but I think this has something to do with fundamentally > different opinions about how RDF should be modeled in Java. It's probably > not possible to reach consensus in such a situation. It's a pity that > several people left in the end. > > > > > > But that's part of the past, we have to look to the present. And if I > look > > to our team I can only count two active contributors Stian and myself), > > which is clearly not enough to help the major toolkits (Apache Jena and > > Eclipse RDF4J) to converge towards a commons API; we clearly lost the > > timing on that (Jena 3.x is out there for quite a while and RDF4J's first > > milestones came out last week). > > > > So I'd like to make a straight question to all our community: what do we > > want to do with the project? > > > > If I'm honest, currently I'm more about retiring the podling than > continue, > > but you may have a different point of view... and I'd live to hear it. > > > > I'm very happy to see that you (= the Commons RDF) community have > integrated into the Apache Commons community. You take part in discussions > about general matters of Apache Commons. This is important, because Apache > Commons is not a community of subcommunities, but a community maintaining > several independent components. I think we can propose to graduate Commons > RDF to Apache Commons for the following reasons: > > - Commons RDF had 2 successful releases. (Imaging and Functor, while > already proper components never had a release) > - several people are interested in the code > - the members of the Commons RDF community have started to feel part of > Apache Commons > - Commons RDF still is a project that can be used by other Apache projects. > > So if you guys want to take this to the next level, you'll have my support. > > Benedikt > > > > > > > > -- > > Sergio Fernández > > Partner Technology Manager > > Redlink GmbH > > m: +43 6602747925 > > e: [email protected] > > w: http://redlink.co > > > -- E-Mail: [email protected] | [email protected] Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
