On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> There are some minor English language issues, like agreement in >> number. Sean, do you want edits?
or, dear, s/sean/shane/. Naughty Iphone! > > I'm not sure if Sean wants edits, since I don't know which Sean you mean. > [1] > > But I'm happy if people want to copy or adapt this blog posting to use on > any apache.org website, preferably under /dev or on the community site. > > I think it could definitely use some cleanup, and it especially could use > some expanded explanations, both of the reasons for this rule, and for some > of the specific ways that PMCs need to act or be seen to act. > > In a perfect world, we'd actually have a series of essays. Something like > my posting as the header on the /dev site as official documentation. Then > get several people to write personal blog posts about the same topic, giving > their perspective on what this means. Especially for a concept like > "independence", I find it really helps to have several different people > explain it in their own words - along with whatever official policy we post > on apache.org somewhere. > > - Shane > > [1] Sorry to point out the obvious and presumably unintentional typo, but > that's a name that I do not respond to. 8-P > >> >> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> +! reads well and clarifies some useful points we often take for >>> granted. >>> >>> Upayavira >>> >>> On Mon, 16 May 2011 12:58 -0400, "Michael McCandless" >>> <luc...@mikemccandless.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> +1 this is an important topic and you explain it well. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure where it should go but I agree it should be somewhere >>>> "permanent" and visible. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> > A number of different issues recently about commercial influence in >>>> > our >>>> > projects have had me thinking about the importance that Apache >>>> > projects >>>> > are managed independently. Â Since this isn't explicitly stated in the >>>> > obvious places, I wrote a little essay for my personal blog: >>>> > >>>> > http://communityovercode.com/2011/05/apache-projects-are-independent/ >>>> > >>>> > Comments? Â I think as the ASF grows up, and as some of our projects >>>> > are >>>> > on the way to scoring mega stardom, it's important to ensure both that >>>> > our projects can continue to manage themselves independently, but also >>>> > to *explain* to the world that this is important to us, and why. >>>> > >>>> > Do people like this? Â Where would be a good place to put it in /dev >>>> > or >>>> > the community site as a requirement for Apache projects? Â I think >>>> > it's >>>> > clear that the board (past, present, and future) will expect projects >>>> > to >>>> > be managed independently, but it's not clear that we've done a good >>>> > enough job of explaining this yet. >>>> > >>>> > - Shane >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>> >