Thanks Chris,

Just one caution.  I mentioned authority over namespaces, not authority over 
Apache Extras.  The question is what constitutes authorized use of additions to 
the org.apache.* hierarchy for namespaces.  On reflection, I think the answer 
should be independent of Apache Extras.

And the notion of decentralization of authority over package names by use of 
the namespace hierarchies is a bit different than delegation to and within 
Apache projects.  (E.g., I would expect the body having authority over 
community.apache.org to have authority over namespace branches of 
org.apache.community.* and be reluctant to delegate that beyond their 
subordinate hierarchy.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mattmann, Chris A (388J) [mailto:chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:45
To: dev@community.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Subject: Re: Apache Extras Question

Hi Dennis,

Thanks for replying, comments below:

On Dec 29, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
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> While there is probably next-to-nothing in the specifications (i.e., section 
> 7.7 of the Java Specification, 3rd edition) for namespaces that deals with 
> authority and authoritative use, using one that has a domain over which I am 
> not the authority seems toxic and certainly abusive of an important de facto 
> protocol.  Technically, making definitions in another's namespace structure 
> violates the notion of distributed authority and assurance of unique, 
> non-colliding identifiers.

The ComDev PMC chair has claimed authority over Apache Extras. That's why 
I'm proposing 2 concrete suggestions (please see my previous email) that 
would both remedy my situation and I think also fall within maintaining ASF 
marks which as a member of the ASF I am keenly interested in protecting as well.
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