On 8 July 2014 18:45, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, you can't deny that I did propose an amendment to the by-laws a > posting ago. :-) >
Is there a reason why you are not consistent and apply the same to PMC ? You have exact the same setup, anybody can propose and discuss a new PMC candidate, but a PMC member need to nominate and start the voting process. rgds jan I > > Regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Issac Goldstand <mar...@beamartyr.net> > wrote: > > > No, because contributors aren't proposing anything as far as the ASF is > > concerned. They're just having a discussion. > > > > Until it comes from a member, it's not a nomination or a proposal or > > anything other than a discussion. > > > > Issac > > > > On 08/07/2014 15:44, Pierre Smits wrote: > > > All, > > > > > > Taking into consideration that nominate and propose - in general and in > > > this context - mean the same and that any contributor can propose > > > potentials for ASF Membership, shouldn't the by-laws of the Foundation > > > reflect this? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > > > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > > > Based Manufacturing, Professional > > > Services and Retail & Trade > > > http://www.orrtiz.com > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Ross Gardler < > rgard...@opendirective.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Yes, of course a community member can propose a member. As Rob says, > the > > >> nomination and election has to be done by the Members, but not all > > projects > > >> have existing members acting as the eyes and ears. > > >> > > >> Of course, not having members in a project community shouldn't impact > > the > > >> project since it is self-managing and membership is only a > foundational > > >> level thing. Nevertheless, the membership needs to be a good > > cross-section > > >> of our project communities. > > >> > > >> If a community member feels someone is being overlooked a mail to > > >> priv...@community.apache.org will reach people who can add notes to > the > > >> member watch list. > > >> > > >> This is the right list for discussing what we look for in members. > > >> > > >> Sent from my phone - please forgive brevity and typos > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: "Rob Vesse" <rve...@dotnetrdf.org> > > >> Sent: 7/8/2014 10:42 > > >> To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org> > > >> Subject: Re: Proposing for Apache Member? > > >> > > >> Pierre > > >> > > >> Not unless one/more of those contributors is themselves a > Member/Officer > > >> of the ASF - see Sectopn 4.1 of the Bylaws > > >> (http://apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html#4.1) which states the > > following: > > >> > > >> To be eligible for membership, a person or entity must be nominated > by a > > >> current member of the corporation and must complete a written > membership > > >> application in such form as shall be adopted by the Board of Directors > > >> from time to time > > >> > > >> > > >> Therefore contributors of a project can't directly, I guess they could > > >> talk to ASF members they know and suggest that person with the aim of > > >> getting a nomination but not being a member myself I'm not sure if > that > > >> would be acceptable behaviour. Ultimately ASF is a meritocracy and my > > >> personal impression based on people who I know of who've become > members > > in > > >> the past couple of years is that to become a member you need to be > > active > > >> across the foundation (not just within a small part of it) for a > > prolonged > > >> period. > > >> > > >> One thing worth asking is why the community you are involved in feels > > the > > >> need to have someone be elected as a Member? > > >> > > >> Rob > > >> > > >> On 08/07/2014 09:43, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi All, > > >>> > > >>> Is it possible that contributors of a project can propose a community > > >>> member to be elected as an Apache Member? > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> > > >>> Pierre Smits > > >>> > > >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > > >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- > > >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional > > >>> Services and Retail & Trade > > >>> http://www.orrtiz.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >
