Ha! Yes I did mean "contacted" :-) I may have misunderstood the status of this. I know Melissa is intending to follow up, I thought that she had. Since you seem interested I'll ensure Melissa sees this thread.
Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -----Original Message----- From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:41 AM To: u...@ofbiz.apache.org Cc: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: The ASF and Apache OFBiz (was: Re: ASF Status website and project health reporting) Ross, As far as I can tell, only Rich has contacted the community of the OFBiz project regarding management of fundraising activities. I assume you that is what you meant, not contracted. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Note, we have recently been discussing how OfBiz can help with > management of the fundraising activities. Melissa (our EA) is in > contract with the project. It seems to me that this would be the > simplest starting point (and isn't public facing, so less of a design > overhead). > > Other than that, as Shane says, anything that does happen needs to > happen with the infra team on board. > > Thanks Ross > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Shane Curcuru<mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org> > Sent: 10/15/2014 4:57 AM > To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> > Cc: u...@ofbiz.apache.org<mailto:u...@ofbiz.apache.org>; Jacques Le > Roux<mailto:jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> > Subject: Re: The ASF and Apache OFBiz (was: Re: ASF Status website and > project health reporting) > > The best place to start this discussion in terms of needs is over on > the dev@community mailing list - no need to include folks individually > unless they ask. > > There are several different issues to work on: > > - Need and design: what does the ASF or some projects actually need, > and how could we better present a design that would be easier to use > and maintain? Note also that projects use a wide variety of site > generation and maintenance tools, and to get better adoption any new > tool needs to fit easily into existing Forrest, Maven, or other tools > that various projects use (i.e., adoption on a per-project level, like > for project.a.o/mailinglist pages, would be up to each project) > > - Work: Who is actually going to provide the code, take feedback from > various parties, and help maintain any new solution? This is where > having an iterative design is important, because many of these efforts > start with great new volunteers, but never get finished or fully > deployed when the rest of the world interferes with people's dayjobs. > > - Code: Any apache.org hosted solution needs to be maintained by the > infra team. In particular, infra is moving to centralize all the > per-person data into our custom LDAP scheme, which is being expanded > to include PMC membership and plenty of other data. Some info is on the blog: > > https://blogs.apache.org/infra/tags/ldap > https://id.apache.org/ > > There's been a lot of updates to how the core LDAP is being used and > is exposed on http or https endpoints in the past year, so it would be > useful to get a better overview of what the core people/projects data > is available already. > > - Shane > > On 10/13/14 9:19 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > > Hi Gabriella, > > > > I have been pondering a bit on how Apache OFBiz could support The > > ASF as the unified front end regarding: > > > > * subscribing to and unsubscribing from mailing lists of projects and > > offices > > * profiling the Projects, Corporate Officers, ASF Members, Vice > > Presidents, PMC Members, Committers, Contributors and Offices > > * the invitation processes regarding new ASF Members, PMC Members and > > Committers > > * the 'Change of Guard' process regarding Board Members, Office and > > Project VPs > > > > Based on some demo data I have mocked up how this could look like > > and have created a Powerpoint to show and explain this a bit. > > In the attached PDF you can get a feel of some screenshots. In the > > notes of each slide you'll find a short description. > > > > If you would like to investigate and/or pursue the possibilities > > further, feel free to contact me to exchange ideas, viewpoints, etc. > > If you have trouble accessing the attached file please send me a note. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- > > Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade > > http://www.orrtiz.com <http://www.orrtiz.com/> > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Gabriela Gibson > > <gabriela.gib...@gmail.com <mailto:gabriela.gib...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Pierre Smits > > <pierre.sm...@gmail.com <mailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Recently we exchanged some thoughts (twitter and otherwise) > regarding the > > > status of Apache top level projects and about how the > > reporting by > the ASF > > > to the projects and the wider communities could be improved. > > > > > > Currently the status pages at http://status.apache.org > > regarding > project > > > health (commit activity and mailing lists) don't allow drill > > down > into > > > individual projects. Is it achievable to get this kind of > functionality? > > > > > > Can we (as the ASF) also provide insights in number of people > joining and > > > leaving the mailing lists of the projects and show what the > trending topics > > > over the periods? > > > But also reporting on average depth and width of mailing list > threads? > > > > > > I do believe that these kind of insights will help monitoring > project > > > health and investigate where projects can improve regarding > community > > > building. > > > > > > > > > I'm not so sure that mailing list subscription counts are very > > representative -- I recently unsubscribed from almost every > > forum I > had > > ever joined because classification by labelling in gmail is a hit > > and miss, > > and the deluge of mails that were incorrectly sorted was too much. > > > > Instead, I use the web interfaces for those forums now. > > > > So, I would like to see the mailing list web interface be improved: > > > > Better thread navigation; and the ability to 'one-click > > (un)subscribe' to a > > given thread or a watch for keywords in the subject(subject to being > > logged > > in). Being able to choose a digest or continuous format on a > per-case > > basis would also be nice. > > > > If that could be done, collected statistics about participation > would be > > far more reliable and informative. > > > > G > > -- > > Visit my Coding Diary: http://gabriela-gibson.blogspot.com/ > > > > > >