The main problem I have with JSON is that AFAIK it does not support comments.

On 18 April 2015 at 19:03,  <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:
> Yes, I have no problem with json vs xml: the question is more to define the 
> schema like doap did it, and write documentation for projects to know where 
> to publish what information
>
> editing current generated json just creates a new information source, without 
> any documentation
>
> My point is: afaik, the purpose of the site is to display info in newer ways, 
> then json generated from every existing piece of information is great, like 
> any other format that would better suit some other visualization
>
> But if we're creating any new source of information that competes with 
> existing one, this has to be done with great care on documentation, 
> explanation on how to migrate and so on
>
> of course the raw format is not an issue: no religion here on xml vs json vs 
> yaml vs ...
>
> Regards
>
> Hervé
>
>
> ----- Mail d'origine -----
> De: jan i <j...@apache.org>
> À: dev@community.apache.org
> Envoyé: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:44:54 +0200 (CEST)
> Objet: Re: Re : Re: Project Visualization Tool...
>
> On Saturday, April 18, 2015, <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:
>
>> It was told the new site would use native json, instead of doap
>> But I'm not convinced at all, since Doap is an invaluable source of info,
>> documented, and so on
>
> json is also a documented standard, that in general is more known, and I
> believe has more tools supporting it.
>
>
>>
>> then imho it would be better to generate json from doap
>>
>> I disabled the json edit feature recently since it will cause problems
>
> which problems?
>
> with a defined json it is simple to generate the doap file.
>
> I highly recommend staying at json and using that as base for all our
> central data.
>
> rgds
> jan i
>
>
>
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Hervé
>> ----- Mail d'origine -----
>> De: Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org <javascript:;>>
>> À: dev@community.apache.org <javascript:;>
>> Envoyé: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 06:43:37 +0200 (CEST)
>> Objet: Re: Project Visualization Tool...
>>
>> We had a great session, and a lot of energy, hopefully we can make some
>> progress. One note: this needs to be a comdev PMC project, and we need
>> to really plan the data part out if we want to be successful.
>>
>> Note that projects-new.a.o is the planned future replacement for
>> projects.a.o - there are *significant* differences, so you need to look
>> at the About page and the source repo. In particular, the new site uses
>> it's own new JSON generated sources which (I think) will no longer use
>> the DOAPs.
>>
>> In particular, Infra currently does *not* consider either the data
>> gathering (i.e. populating the JSON behind the projects-new site) nor
>> the visualizations (current or ones we want to build) as core supported
>> services. So whatever we build needs to be maintained by this PMC to
>> start with.
>>
>> Also, Link dump of useful related bits: ----------------
>>
>> Old service, based on crappy cron jobs and DOAP files from projects:
>> https://projects.apache.org/
>>
>> New service, soon to be infra supported, relying on JSON data generated
>> by infra on a regular schedule:
>> https://projects-new.apache.org/
>>
>> Useful PMC chair report helper, that surfaces a number of different
>> statistics about your PMC(s), including mailing list stats,
>> PMC/committer changes, some software releases, etc. etc. (Members have
>> visibility to all PMCs):
>> https://reporter.apache.org
>>
>> Rob Weir (AOO, Member) used to do some visualization stuff and might
>> have code ideas:
>> http://www.robweir.com/blog/2013/05/mapping-apache.html
>>
>> Ken Coar's old mailing list stats page:
>>
>> https://people.apache.org/~coar/mlists.html
>>
>> The AOO project wrote a mailing list visualizer for who talks to whom:
>> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/visualizing_the_aoo_dev_list
>>
>> Some outside statistics FLOSSmole generated about Apache communities and
>> lists:
>> http://flossmole.org/category/tags/apache
>>
>> Random other interesting analytics:
>> The Subversion project has the "contribulyzer"
>>
>>
>>
>> - Shane
>>
>>
>
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