On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Gregory Chase <gch...@pivotal.io> wrote: > Does "...based on Apache Hadoop" require a clear dependency notation as to > which versions of Apache component releases are part of the commercial > distribution?
No, it cannot. Trademark law is not a matter of such distinctions, and our very own Apache License imposes no such complexity. > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: >> > Bill, >> > So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" ?? I >> > thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was misleading... >> >> Things in law are rarely binary except at the edges or after an actual >> court ruling. >> >> Releasing a "Niclas George platform powered by Apache Hadoop" conforms >> with our branding requirements, so would likely be OK. The further >> you go away from that, the less clear that what you are doing would be >> OK. >> >> Hadoop would be a especially problematic case for you, as "Apache >> Hadoop, Hadoop, Apache, the Apache feather logo, and the Apache Hadoop >> project logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of the >> Apache Software Foundation in the United States and other countries. " >> -- https://hadoop.apache.org/ >> >> http is a more generic term, so including variants of it in your name >> (including httpd) would be less problematic than incorporating a name >> like Hadoop. >> >> - Sam Ruby >> >> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:30 PM, William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hi! >> >> > >> >> > while answering a question on release policies and ALv2 >> >> > I've suddenly realized that I really don't know what is the >> >> > legal basis for enforcing release policies we've got >> >> > documented over here: >> >> > http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html >> >> > >> >> > For example, what would be the legal basis for stopping >> >> > a 3d party from releasing a snapshot of ASF's project >> >> > source tree and claim it to be a release X.Y.Z of said >> >> > project? >> >> > >> >> >> >> Nothing other than the Trademarks. >> >> >> >> If someone wants to call httpd trunk 3.0.1-GA, they cannot do this as >> >> "Apache httpd 3.0.1-GA" or "Apache HTTP Server 3.0.1-GA". >> >> >> >> They can certainly release trunk under the AL license and call it >> "Kindred >> >> Http Server 3.0.1-GA, based on Apache HTTP Server". That is a statement >> of >> >> fact and not an abuse of the mark, IMHO. (If it was not actually based >> on >> >> Apache HTTP Server, then that would similarly be a Trademark >> infringement >> >> as it is a false use of the mark.) >> >> >> >> There are no less than two marks, one is the name of the foundation >> itself >> >> in conjunction with Open Source Software, and the other is the specific >> >> project name. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer >> > http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > Greg Chase > > Director of Big Data Communities > http://www.pivotal.io/big-data > > Pivotal Software > http://www.pivotal.io/ > > 650-215-0477 > @GregChase > Blog: http://geekmarketing.biz/
