On 17 April 2018 at 20:05, Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:48 PM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 17 April 2018 at 19:04, Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > I've noticed some TLPs don't have DOAP files, and many others are not
>> > well-maintained.
>>
>> True
>>
>> > As I understand it, these were once used to populate projects.apache.org
>> [1]
>> > But, I do not think they have any current use. (please correct me if I'm
>> > wrong)
>>
>> They *are* still used for projects.a.o, as per the About page:
>> [2] https://projects.apache.org/about.html
>>
>>
> It is certainly the case that the documentation *says* they are still used,
> but I think that's a case of the documentation being wrong or outdated.
>
> Projects without them seem to be listed just as well as projects which have
> them.
I think you are confusing projects with PMCs.
>
>> > The premise of the file ("to be listed on this site") is certainly false,
>> > at the very least.
>>
>> [1] is a page from the original projects site and may need tweaking.
>>
>>
> As far as I can tell, it is the *only* place where DOAP files are
> documented for purpose, structure, and the process to make use of them.
> The about page in [2] does not substitute for any of this documentation.
Why not?
Where should it be documented?
> So, if [1] is out of date, then there is no current documentation for
> purpose, structure, or process to make use of them.
[2]
>
>> > And, despite the numerous site checks Whimsy does, checking for DOAP does
>> > not appear to be one of them, though it does provide a link, if it exists
>> > for a project.
>>
>> Projects.a.o validates them.
>>
>>
> Okay. But, just as a spellcheck of an email which is never sent is useless,
> so too is validation of an RDF file which is never utilized.
projects.a.o validates all the DOAPs that it is told about as per [2]
>
>> > My questions are:
>> > Is a DOAP file required?
>> > If so, by what policy
>>
>> No idea
>>
>> > and for what purpose?
>>
>> See [2]
>>
>>
> That does not explain purpose. It simply mentions the fact that they exist
> and who is responsible for maintaining them. It does link to a cwiki page
> which describes itself as containing "historical information", which
> further suggests they have no current use (or at least, no currently
> documented use).
[2] says:
How The Code Works
... from various data sources ...
3. Project DOAP files listed in
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/data/projects.xml
>
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Christopher
>> >
>> > [1]: https://projects.apache.org/create.html
>>
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