Hi Matthew,

> On Apr 6, 2021, at 11:26 AM, Matthew Sacks <matt...@matthewsacks.com> wrote:
> 
> - we can also maybe build on the Badgr project, is that what you would say
> is preferable?
> 
> - so ill out it on the incubator list?

I would start by reading https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/

Some of the requirements include convincing enough Apache Members or IPMC 
Members to be your Champion and Mentors.

You would also need to have a small community of others who want to work with 
you on this project. By small I mean at least two others.

Then you write a proposal and the IPMC decides.

Alternatively, you could find a PMC that would sponsor your project’s 
Incubation.

Thirdly, find a PMC (including ComDev) that would host the development of the 
badge system.

Best Regards,
Dave

PS. Criticism is going to happen, get used to it, and take your time in 
response.

> What about the infra list? Should I
> mentioned it there?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:29 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/6/21 11:16 AM, Matthew Sacks wrote:
>>> 1) if rather build my own badge software from scratch for the ASF badge
>>> use specifically.
>>> 
>>> It is indeed a software project, and yes you’ve fully misunderstood as
>>> you mentioned, WADR.
>>> 
>>> Whether or not infra decides to use the software will be based on the
>>> usefulness of the Podling PoC for the new badge technology specifically
>>> for ASF badges. If someone wants to fork and resubmit or take it to
>>> GitHub whatever that’s fine, but the original purpose is for the ASF
>>> badge specifically.
>>> 
>>> Should I cc them or present it on their list separately?
>>> 
>>> New podling, new software, yes.
>>> 
>>> Does this change your -1?
>> 
>> I see. Well, then, I would have to say that this is the wrong place to
>> have this vote, and the wrong place to have this conversation. You need
>> to make a proposal over on the Incubator list. Having a vote on this
>> here will have no consequence, and will not be binding on anything.
>> 
>> That said, reinventing something just so we can have our own is not
>> something I'm a fan of, but if that's interesting to you, I'm certainly
>> not going to say no, either.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:04 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com
>>> <mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    On 4/6/21 10:57 AM, Matthew Sacks wrote:
>>>> I’m not sure wtf it doing but this GT relying on the elder
>>>    buffers and more
>>>> experienced guidance (specifically Mark Thomas, JimJag’s input,
>> Brett
>>>> Porter) here goes: can we vote yes or no should this be turned
>> into a
>>>> proposal of some kind, incubator or other, depending on where it
>>>    is most
>>>> appropriated.
>>>> 
>>>> Calling a vote yes or no to create a formal application for
>>>    project hosting
>>>> in the ASF for the PoC.
>>>> 
>>>> PoC success criteria TBD.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve proposed one podling before, but I’m rusty on this process.
>>>> 
>>>> Ready to dedicate resources to this project.
>>> 
>>>    -1 - this is not podling material. Podlings are for software project
>> to
>>>    be hosted at the Foundation. This is not a software project. It is
>>>    standing up a service with an existing externally-developed software
>>>    project - unless I am completely misunderstanding what you're trying
>> to
>>>    do here.
>>> 
>>>    What I understood from the entire thread is that you wish to run a
>>>    badge
>>>    service, using Badgr (or other similar existing software project).
>>> 
>>>    Have I completely misunderstood your intent?
>>> 
>>>    If you do, in fact, intend to start a *new* software project to
>> develop
>>>    a badge solution, and make that an Apache project, this is not the
>>>    place
>>>    to have that conversation. That would be over on the Incubator
>>>    mailing list.
>>> 
>>>    --
>>>    Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com <mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com>
>>>    @rbowen
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Thank you, Matthew
>> 
>> --
>> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com
>> @rbowen
>> 
> -- 
> Thank you, Matthew


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