We can’t know the motivations of anyone funding a “tidelift” effort. And we have trademarks / brand to help deal with misnamed vendor product.
PMCs have the same guarantees with vendors and funders - none. Do we need a clearer statement about participation as individuals? Do we need clarification about how a PMC can ask for help? Trying to keep it simple. All the best, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2022, at 10:20 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > My experience with vendors that employee people to work on ASF projects is > that > they have their own internal processes that are separate from the ASF’s. For > example, > as part of their product they might deliver Apache Foo for Acme Bar. The > version they > ship might not exactly match what the ASF distributes. > > Tidelift doesn’t deliver a product so has no way to achieve this. > > That said, Tidelift certainly could provide resources to run the processes > they deem > necessary and get the folks they are paying to execute those. But any issues > that are > found would have to be resolved in the project, not in something Tidelift > distributes. > > Ralph > > > >> On Mar 2, 2022, at 6:10 PM, Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> The way this discussion is going makes me want to ask why should tidelift be >> any different from a vendor that pays individuals to work on ASF projects as >> part of their employment? >> >> The same neutrality ought to apply. Why do we need to make a new >> classification? >> >> All the best, >> Dave >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Mar 2, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> +1. >>> It will make the maintainer's life easier with this collected information. >>> When we bring the commercial support to the ASF project daily >>> development, we still need to follow certain rules to avoid the >>> conflict with the Apache way we believed. >>> >>> Willem Jiang >>> >>> Twitter: willemjiang >>> Weibo: 姜宁willem >>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 1:08 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Roman for the initiative. +1 on it. >>>> >>>> I think this might allow us to focus on what we (ASF) think is really >>>> important and needed by the individuals who work on ASF projects, and set >>>> our boundaries and limits their individual approach as well as clear limits >>>> and boundaries for the organisations that would like to apply - and then >>>> let any entity who wants to help to see how they can fit-in. >>>> >>>> Happy to help with hashing it out. >>>> >>>> J. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 3:30 PM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Le mer. 2 mars 2022 à 15:19, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> a >>>>> écrit : >>>>>> ...Once we've collected that type of info -- we can then sort of >>>>> "evaluate >>>>>> vendors" against that list and see what they are missing, etc. We can >>>>>> even issue a wide "call to apply" for various companies if we feel like >>>>> it... >>>>> >>>>> +1, I like the idea! >>>>> >>>>> -Bertrand >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
